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Ok I used CDRWIN to be able to extract the tracking information (BIN, CUE) to see what was going on.

So here is what it shows in the CUE file.

FILE "G:\STONKEEP.BIN" BINARY
 TRACK 01 MODE1/2352
   INDEX 01 00:00:00
 TRACK 02 AUDIO
   PREGAP 00:02:00
   INDEX 01 61:07:50
 TRACK 03 AUDIO
   INDEX 00 64:17:73
   INDEX 01 64:19:73

At least UltraISO Can read it but when I try to convert using UltraISO it says.

"Prompt: Multi-track information may be lost if using standard ISO format, continue anyway?"

So I try this. And then burn the program using the latest version of Nero. ok.. good so far.

Seems to work... I just don't get why I get this Multitrack CD error message trying to make an ISO from the CD (preventing me from even making an ISO) and then trying to make an ISO from a BIN/CUE image (Allowing me but warned)..  kinda annoying.

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Update: Running the CD in WINAMP

The Audio Tracks are missing. At least they aren't "necessary" for the game to play (since the ingame audio doesn't depend on the audio tracks) but they are lost from the original CD. This must be a result of this Multi-track error/warning (depending on how you do it.)

I don't remember having a problem with this before but it's happening and I'm getting errors in the latest version of UltraISO 7.2 ME from the website.

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OK, I see what the "problem" is a Multitrack CD being one with a data track and multiple audio tracks. UltraISO doesn't support this. Stonekeep only has.. 2 audio tracks as you see above.

Tested on a CD I knew that has multiple audio tracks as well. The cd is Stargunner CD. Same warning pops up. This is the apparent problem. Stargunner has like 41 Audio tracks.

That's the problem.

So basically an ISO loses all Audio tracks if used in UltraISO?

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Thanks for your detailed information.

Yes, version 7.2 can not make images from Mixed-mode CDs. This feature will be added soon at version 7.21.
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I just don't get why I get this Multitrack CD error message trying to make an ISO from the CD (preventing me from even making an ISO) and then trying to make an ISO from a BIN/CUE image (Allowing me but warned)..  kinda annoying.

Iso standard doesn't support creating multitrack images.
It's Because the image file contains "cooked" 2048-byte sectors and nothing else, it isn't possible to store anything but a single data track this way. Audio tracks, mixed-mode discs, CD+G, multisession, and other fancy formats can't be re-created. That's why most burning programs have their own image format:to store additional data that an iso can't handle.

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Ah that makes sense now. Thanks for the update though :). Maybe the warning shoulda been changed and then I wouldn't have had so much problems but now that I did something may happen.

Thanks for the info as well Benvl.

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Maybe the warning shoulda been changed and then I wouldn't have had so much problems but now that I did something may happen.

Hello Ieremiou, please check your PM for pre-released version 7.21, which has included the feature you wanted.
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I didn't seem to get the PM... maybe try again? sorry for the slightly late post...

Make sure you send it to "Ieremiou" (emphasis on the capitalized "I")

I notice when I log in.. "Ieremiou" and "ieremiou" are recognized differently.. "ieremiou" isn't recognized as my name.

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Done. Please check your messager.
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PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 17 2004,07:32 Skip to the previous post in this topic.  Ignore posts   QUOTE

Okay, I got it...
Works great.. I like the ability to make Bin/Cues, CloneCD images and NRGs now. :)
Very nice. Thanks a bunch xoben.

By the way, on a whim I tried to burn the BIN/CUE made by UltraISO on to a cd but the engine says it can't analyze the cd to do a track-at-once but NERO BURNING ROM (Which I have anyways) was able to burn it with no hitch. Maybe a bug? Not sure.

I'll give a more detail error message if you need to because I gotta go now.

L8rs

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