Forum: EasyBoot
Topic: UBCD4Win and WinXP.....
started by: Manic

Posted by Manic on Oct. 24 2008,12:13
Hello to all.
How do Faŕ to put together a EasyBoot with Windows XP also UBCD4Win?
The i386 folders are the same .....

Posted by balder on Oct. 24 2008,12:22
Hello Manic

Read here: < http://www.ezbsystems.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=1286 >

You can change BART to UBCD in tutorial to make it easier to recognize :)

Note: you don’t need to make any changes to winXP i386 folder. Use it as it is!

The future is already here!

Best wishes from balder

Posted by Manic on Oct. 25 2008,01:26
I have followed the whole procedure but me from:
CDBOOT: Couldn't find NTLDR

I have started alone then the image of the cd UBCDWin it is it gives me:
Starting CD... Ok
Error: Cannot fing bootimage file (code:5555h):
\i386\setupldr .bin

Posted by balder on Oct. 25 2008,02:10
Hi again Manic

Could you please show me structure of your EasyBoot\disk1  (what files and folders you have in here) ???

And structure in EasyBoot\disk1\ezboot (what files and folders you have in here) ???

The future is already here!

Best wishes from balder

Posted by Manic on Oct. 25 2008,03:40
The folder i386 of the UBCDWin renamed BART
Posted by balder on Oct. 25 2008,04:08
Hi again Manic

It seems (to what I can see) that structure should work okay :)

Did you modify txtsetup.sif in folder ‘BART’ (open txtsetup.sif and search for 'SetupSourcePath = "\"' and changed this to 'SetupSourcePath = "\BART” )

Did you modify setupldr.bin in folder BART and changed all occurrences of i386 to BART

Did you modify EasyBoot\disk1\ezboot\w2ksect.bin and changed all occurrences of i386 to BART
Note: you may have another name on w2ksect.bin (bart.bin or whatever, it doesn’t matter any way)

This information is only reliable if you use WinXP-sp2 as source for your UBCD4Win build. You can’t use server 2003 as source when building UBCD4Win (BART) because setupldr.bin is locked against hex editing. It’s destroyed if you try to hex edit this file. Only use WinXP as source, it’s 100% reliable.

One question: What are folder ‘boot’ used for ???

The future is already here!

Best wishes from balder

Posted by Manic on Oct. 25 2008,04:47
I inserted the boot:
Windows XP SP3
Ophcrack
Hirens Boot 9.6
Boot from hard disk
The problem is insert UBCD4Win

Posted by balder on Oct. 25 2008,05:12
Hi Manic

But what changes did you do to txtsetup.sif, setupldr.bin and easyboot\disk1\ezboot\w2ksect.bin file
Did you made necessary hex edit to this files (using caps to name BART) ???

To be sure concerning structure: You did copy folder i386 from inside of UBCD4Win\BartPE to EasyBoot\disk1 and renamed i386 to BART and done hex edit to mentioned files (using caps=big letters not bart) ???

The future is already here!

Best wishes from balder

Posted by Manic on Oct. 25 2008,05:21
Before I renamed the folder in UBCD4Win BART and after 'I copied disk in EasyBoot
Using 's utility EasyBoot I replaced i386 in BART files bart.bif, Setupldr.bin, TXTSETUP.SIF EasyBoot menu and I entered the command run bart.bif

Posted by balder on Oct. 25 2008,06:17
Hi Manic

If your structure looks like this (BART structure only showed)
EasyBoot\disk1\BART\system32, setupldr.bin, txtsetup.sif etcetera inside of folder BART(original i386)

In EasyBoot\disk1\ you have all other folders, files and ‘identfiles* etcetera

If you have done this, your BART should start up with out any problems
I can’t help you at this point, if you have done everything right and it still doesn’t work, well not much I can help ???  

Why not test with only BART (UBCD4Win) and skip other system folders (and files). Only set-up a test with folder BART doing necessary hex edit to files etcetera and see if you can make it run?


The future is already here!

Best wishes from balder

Posted by Manic on Oct. 25 2008,06:20
Ok, I will know you are not at home and I can not prove .........
Hello

Posted by Manic on Oct. 25 2008,14:38
I create the iso with UBCDWin
Later with Ultraiso I open the iso that contains:
I386
PROGRAMS
autorun.inf
BOOTFONT.BIN
WIN51IP
WIN51IP.SP3

I rename the briefcase I386 in BART
I enter the briefcase BART and I modify with Easyboot the files
TXTSETUP.SIF
SETUPLDR.BIN
and I replace I386 with BART

Then I save the iso with UltraISO
But as soon as the masterizzo and after start the cd tells me:
CDBOOT: Couldn't find NTLDR

But as I do?
I want to insert him/it with Easyboot together with:
Hiren's Boot cd
Windows XP SP3
Ophcrack
Then to insert L' iso UBCDWin I must modify the briefcase I386 procedure described above, but it doesn't work. ..............
Help. ..........

Posted by balder on Oct. 25 2008,14:59
Hello again Manic

Looks okay, but what about the “bin-loader file” (w2ksect.bin or what name you changed it to) that resides in easyboot\disk1\ezboot? You must hex edit this too (change occurrences of I386 to BART inside here). Is this done ???

The future is already here!

Best wishes from balder

Posted by Manic on Oct. 25 2008,15:13
I have made the test apart without only using that is easyboot modifying the sio UBCDWin but the error appears
CDBOOT: Couldn't find NTLDR

Posted by balder on Oct. 25 2008,15:42
Hello again Manic

I have created download for you with hex edited setupldr.bin and bart.bin file.
Put bart.bin file in easyboot\disk1\ezboot folder and use command:  run bart.bin

Put setupldr.bin in your renamed folder (bart)
I cannot provide you with txtsetup.sif file because this one is directly related to your personal type of build (bartpe).

Here is a link with the 2 mentioned files:  link removed by balder

The future is already here!

Best wishes from balder



Posted by Manic on Oct. 27 2008,11:00
Always the same error:
CDBOOT: Couldn't find NTLDR

Posted by balder on Oct. 27 2008,12:54
Hello again Manic

Try this:
1. Copy every file and folder from inside of UBCDWin\bartpe to easyboot\disk1 (don’t copy folder bartpe only files and folders from inside of bartpe folder)  
2. Rename folder i386 to BART
3. Copy bart.bin (from downloaded zip-file) to easyboot\disk1\ezboot
4. Copy setupldr.bin (from downloaded zip-file) to easyboot\disk1\BART and overwriting existing setupldr.bin in folder BART
5. Do not change anything in txtsetup.sif. Leave it as it is = no changes. Open txtsetup.sif (using notepad) and check that setupsourcepath in txtsetup.sif is this:  "\"

Create menu command    run bart.bin   then test this ISO.

I was thinking in wrong direction :(  You made changes to txtsetup.sif, so I was thinking, “setup folder i386 in WinXP” :p  
But UBCDWin is basically the same concept as BartPe or reatogo or Winternal ERD.
This “Live” versions of windows should not have their txtsetup.sif modified in any way :O

The future is already here!

Best wishes from balder



Posted by Manic on Oct. 28 2008,01:18
I have seguto to the letter the instructions, but oddly it departs me the installation of win xp instead of UBCDWin. .....
Posted by balder on Oct. 28 2008,02:14
Hello again Manic

You first tested this and it went well?
1. Copy every file and folder from inside of UBCDWin\bartpe to easyboot\disk1 (don’t copy folder bartpe only files and folders from inside of bartpe folder)  
2. Rename folder i386 to BART
3. Copy bart.bin (from downloaded zip-file) to easyboot\disk1\ezboot
4. Copy setupldr.bin (from downloaded zip-file) to easyboot\disk1\BART and overwriting existing setupldr.bin in folder BART
5. Do not change anything in txtsetup.sif. Leave it as it is = no changes. Open txtsetup.sif (using notepad) and check that setupsourcepath in txtsetup.sif is this:  "\"

Create menu command    run bart.bin   then test this ISO.


You then copied folder i386 (WinXP) to easyboot\disk1 and kept folder name i386 as it is.
You used a fresh copy of w2ksect.bin) to easyboot\disk1\ezboot (you may rename this file to whatever you want but don’t hex edit it).
You used command:  run w2ksect.bin  to start setup of winxp (folder i386)

And when you started BART (run bart.bin) this instead started setup of winxp folder (i386) ???
This isn’t possible :O  

I want to add following notes…
I just tested BartPe together with WinXP-sp2 setup.

I followed my tutorial to every point

I renamed bartpe (folder i386) to bart in easyboot\disk1 and used files from downloaded zip-files according to tutorial to make necessary changes to bartpe. Used command in easyboot:  run bart.bin

I then copied folder i386 from my WinXP-CD to easyboot\disk1 and used a fresh w2ksect.bin (renamed this to setupxp.bin) used command in easyboot:  run setupxp.bin

Works perfect  :cool:
I even tested checking “Optimize” and this reduced size of built ISO a little bit (but not much) and this went as expected (very well)  :cool:

Note: I tested this from ISO and not from any USB device

The future is already here!

Best wishes from balder



Posted by Manic on Oct. 28 2008,04:56
Windows XP works
Hiren's Boot CD 9.6 work
Ophcracvk works
It starts from hard disk it works
You complete boot cd 4 wins it doesn't work
following the procedure always sprouts

Always the same error:
CDBOOT: Couldn't find NTLDR

Posted by balder on Oct. 28 2008,05:10
Hello again Manic

Mmmm… ???

I don’t now if your illustrated picture shows something wrong, but to my eyes it looks that folder BART has the name EART or is it just some scratches in picture so I see wrong ???

Mmmm or maybe something wrong with my glasses.
Please check that you renamed BartPe folder (i386) to BART and not to EART :cool:

Aaaa picture shaped up and you do use right name, sorry
What source did you use to build UBCDWin


The future is already here!

Best wishes from balder



Posted by Manic on Oct. 28 2008,05:17
Renaming the briefcase in BartPE the same error for a long time, the briefcase i386 already the I have renamed in BART
Posted by balder on Oct. 28 2008,05:22
Hello again Manic

Okey it’s fine

But what source are you using when building UBCD4WIN ???

The future is already here!

Best wishes from balder

Posted by Manic on Oct. 28 2008,06:18
< http://www.ubcd4win.com/downloads.htm >

When I install plugin UBCDWin in abilito UBCD for dos and in the folder please plugin l 'iso ubcd.iso then launch the file. Cmd and I have the plugin working is just the start' iso alone ubcdwin that works both for dos but ubcd once put in EasyBoot gives me the usual error ......
Help ...........

Posted by balder on Oct. 28 2008,06:38
Hello again Manic

Final test

ATTENTION! You cannot (or not recommended) use WinXP-sp3 as source when building BartPe (including UBCD4Win witch uses BartPe approach).
If possible first choose WinXP-sp2 as source and as second choice use server-2003
----------------------------------------

Remove everything except folder BART (Note: best solution is to remake the whole process and only copy BartPe folder i386 (from inside of UBCDWin \Bartpe) to easyboot\disk1 and rename to BART and do the rest of necessary changes) create ISO and test. Don’t put in anything else to easyboot\disk1 only test with BART like this:

1. Copy every file and folder from inside of UBCDWin\bartpe to easyboot\disk1 (don’t copy folder bartpe only files and folders from inside of bartpe folder)  
2. Rename folder i386 to BART
3. Copy bart.bin (from downloaded zip-file) to easyboot\disk1\ezboot
4. Copy setupldr.bin (from downloaded zip-file) to easyboot\disk1\BART and overwriting existing setupldr.bin in folder BART
5. Do not change anything in txtsetup.sif. Leave it as it is = no changes. Open txtsetup.sif (using notepad) and check that setupsourcepath in txtsetup.sif is this:  "\"

Create menu command    run bart.bin   then test this ISO.

If this works okay (witch I think it does), well then I can’t do much to help you with this issue ???

Note: I have downloaded and created folder i386 using UBCD4Win as “build engine” and copied folder i386 to easyboot\disk1 and followed my own tutorial to every point and this works like a dream. No problems :cool:

The future is already here!

Best wishes from balder

Posted by Manic on Oct. 28 2008,07:48
Ok, will use Windows XP SP2, you know I will ......
Hello

Posted by Manic on Nov. 02 2008,10:30
Ok
It perfectly works
Then I would want to add to the dvd Ophcrack and you Complete boot cd, Ophcrack it works but as soon as throwing Completed boot cd oddly departs ophcrack.
I have inserted bcdw/ezboot/ubcd50b5 .iso, instead for ophcrack bootinfotable;run ophcrack.bif
The principal cratelles of Ophcrack are:
Boot
Ophcrack
Instead Ultimate Boot CD I am:
isolinux
pmagic
syslinux
ubcd

How do I do to make to perfectly work Ultimate Boot cd?
Help. ......



Posted by balder on Nov. 02 2008,12:12
Hello again Manic

Sorry to say that I really don’t have a clue how to start Ultimate Boot cd. Isolinux can sometimes bee a hard nut to crack. Is there anybody else on EasyBoot forum that can create tutorial how to solve this issue?

I can only recommend to use “Search” in EasyBoot and choose to>> “Search for Older” topics and see if you can figure out anything to use this way. Sorry, I’m not skilled in handling isolinux :(  

Anyway, nice that you solved those other problems that we have discussed :)  Excellent work from your side – keep it up

The future is already here!

Best wishes from balder