Topic: Win7PE is very very slow
started by: allgames71
Posted by allgames71 on Feb. 10 2012,09:59
hello balder ,I've made the Win7PE before , it runs normal fast. It takes less than 2 minutes boot to the desktop. The way I made it is only through Easyboot usb script then it's made. (For my usb hd)
And now I want to make this Win7PE through Easyboot so as to have password protect. My procedure :
1. Use Easyboot-iso script to integrate Win7PE to Easyboot , use recommend command "run /iso/m7pe/m7pe.img"
2. Create mydisk.iso in Easyboot with password added.
3. Use Easyboot usb script to transfer mydisk.iso to usb hd
It boots ok , but very very slow about 5 minutes.
Actually what's the difference between :
1. Direct made Win7PE through Easyboot usb script , boot up less than 2 minutes
2. Made Win7PE by Easyboot , then Easyboot usb script , boot up about 5 minutes
Please any idea to make it faster ?
Thanks
Posted by allgames71 on Feb. 10 2012,10:11
hello balder ,Now I found that many Win7PE based software are also booting very very slow through Easyboot with password protect. That's really unlike before !!
May I have a conclusion that Easyboot slow down the Win7PE related software !!
Thanks.
Posted by balder on Feb. 10 2012,10:21
@allgames71Please give me a couple of ours to check your 'suspicions' if this is the case
Note: I have to 'ghost' back my build to my 500GB Buffalo USB hard-disk (take some time)
regards balder
Posted by balder on Feb. 10 2012,12:12
@allgames71Quote: "I've made the Win7PE"
What 'Win7PE' do you mean
I guess you mean MsDart70 or similar Win7PE-build, because we cannot use EasyBoot 'Burn'-facility to Win7.vhd-build as vhd-files need NTFS and EasyBoot use FAT32 in its 'Burn'-process
I tested several different Win7PE-files and couldn't notice any difference if using different combination of 'password'/'Create Partition' - it's the same result - which it should be
EDIT:
Hmm... I also noticed you use my script to get Win7PE in EasyBoot-build, quote: "run /iso/m7pe/m7pe.img"
If it is an 'real' Win7PE.ISO you can simply drop ISO in folder EZBOOT and use the 'standard' command: run win7pe.iso
You don't need to use my 'special script' as it is only used to WinPE based on NT5-systems (WinXP as source as example)
regards balder
Posted by allgames71 on Feb. 10 2012,23:21
hello balder ,quote : "you can simply drop ISO in folder EZBOOT and use the 'standard' command: run win7pe.iso
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I've done it as your way , but after typing in the password , it stop to boot and stay in the boot up picture doing nothing.
Please help.
Posted by allgames71 on Feb. 10 2012,23:31
hello balder ,Sorry for my careless mistake ..... I made a little mistake to make the Win7PE not bootable.
According to your instruction , the Win7PE boots normal fast like before. It's a simple command that shows I really have no knowledge about Easyboot. Shame on me.
Anyway I'll test the other Win7PE based software also.
Thanks for your kind instruction.
Posted by allgames71 on Feb. 11 2012,06:07
hello balder ,This time I rewrite all my necessary Easyboot software with Easyboot password protect. Most of them are not difficut. But for some software I forgot (you have taught me before) how they be created like :
Hdd Regenerator 2011
MHDD 4.6
Paragon Partition Manager 10
They have the same way to make it :
1. command : memdisk xxxx.img.gz
2. C:\EasyBoot\disk1\ISO\xxxx.iso
It means , there's a .gz file in C:\EasyBoot\disk1\EZBOOT and a .iso file in C:\EasyBoot\disk1\ISO. How they were made like this.
I've tried to Easyboot iso script , but the result is not like this ?
Would you mind to tell me how ? And if you don't mind , would you write down some hints to which iso should use which method to create by Easyboot. Just like the Win7PE , you recommend to copy the iso file to C:\EasyBoot\disk1\EZBOOT and use command "run xxxx.iso". So the other Easyboot forum members can also have a refenerce.
Thanks a lot.
Posted by balder on Feb. 11 2012,07:45
@allgames71Quote: "would you write down some hints to which iso should use which method to create by Easyboot"
Let's put it this way...
A general rule is to always copy ISO-file to folder EZBOOT and use menu command in EasyBoot menu: run ***.iso
Note: this is only working from EasyBoot_v6 and later
But if EasyBoot fails to launch ISO properly - then use 'easyboot-iso.script' for better result.
Note: of course not all ISO-files can be run directly and some ISO-files need 'special treatment'
Another example is Win7 setup-ISO-file that can be launched but doesn't work fully out
Attention! EasyBoot cannot directly run NT5-ISO-files - but my script can do it
All NT5-ISO-PE-files (typically BartPE\Reatogo\ERD5 etcetera) must be integrated to Easyboot using my script 'easyboot-iso.script' and have 'Run ISO from RAM' checked when integrating such ISO into Easyboot.
Anyway...
Example to 'special treatment' is the 'frugal solution' (simple solution)
Bitdefender is a typical example to an ISO that need 'special treatment' - read < HERE >
As there is an constantly feed of new (different and modified) ISO-files every day (Bitdefender is such example) - it is, if not pointless, so at least, a constant need to update list of 'old' and newer ISO-files available for download
This is a pretty hard work to maintaining
I hope I don't not make you disappointed - this is time consuming
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According to your example:
Hdd Regenerator 2011
MHDD 4.6
Paragon Partition Manager 10
Above ISO-files can most likely all be launched from EasyBoot (copy ISO's to folder EZBOOT and use menu command: run ***.iso
Note: paragon can always be launched with 'run paragon.iso'
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Don't forget the possibility to create 'subfolders' to keep an clean invironment in folder EZBOOT.
Example: I wan' to put six ISO-files into folder EZBOOT - to keep a clean file structure I create a folder 'ISOFILES' inside folder EZBOOT.
To launch ISO-files I must change path in menu
In normal case I simply use: run ***.iso
But as I have copied ISO-files to a subfolder inside folder EZBOOT I set 'absolute' path in menu command, like this: run /ezboot/isofiles/***.iso
regards balder
Posted by allgames71 on Feb. 11 2012,10:40
hello balder ,Thanks for your brief explanation , I and the other members of this forum would have much help from this. And you must have spent a lot of time to make this conclusion. Thanks again.
Sorry , balder , I've another question about Easyboot. Inside Easyboot .... [Misc] tab , there's :
1 'q' quit
2 'r' reboot
And about these 2 decriptions , there's a [Append] and [Insert] button. So is there a way to add a shortcut key to go back to the main menu.lst if I made a wrong choice by then , so I don't have to reboot and choose the menu again.
Thanks for you tutorial.
Posted by balder on Feb. 11 2012,11:14
@allgames71Quote: "And about these 2 descriptions , there's a [Append] and [Insert] button"
If you push 'Append' a new command line is inserted below and if pushing 'Insert' a new command line is inserted above
However, I really don't see the point with having two buttons for this as you can move inserted command line up and down as it please your self - using buttons 'Up' and Down'
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Quote: " So is there a way to add a shortcut key to go back to the main menu.lst"
Yes there are - you can jump to any menu you prefer
Let's say that you accidentally jumped to 'format.ezb' but want back to 'main.ezb' (or whatever name you use to your 'main menu').
Then insert a new line and above in field for 'Func Key' I decide to use letter m to jump back to main menu.
And in field for 'Command' I write run main.ezb (my main menu or whatever name you use to your 'main menu')
If I chose wrong menu I simply press m and hereby launch my main menu to get back to square one (to my main menu)
Note: you must create this command key facility to every submenu(s) to be able to jump back to 'main menu (main.ezb in my case)
regards balder
Posted by allgames71 on Feb. 11 2012,12:36
hello balder ,Thanks for your instruction. This is a good instruction for me as I don't know that before. This is a very good way for making Easyboot CD/DVD Menu.
But what I'm now making is Easyboot usb stick. Every Easyboot software are individual , but just the menu.lst and other say win7pe.lst , partition.lst , Acronis.lst , etc.
For every Easyboot software , there's only bootmenu.ezb and default.ezb , so how can I jump back to the menu.lst ?
Thanks.
Posted by balder on Feb. 11 2012,13:45
@allgames71Quote: "For every Easyboot software , there's only bootmenu.ezb and default.ezb"
I think you underestimate the power of EasyBoot
Create your own menu you are not stuck to use only bootmenu.ezb and default.ezb
Open bootmenu.ezb and makes changes (different background and different menu colours and different menu commands or whatever) then push on 'Save As' and set new name to menu - how about allgames.ezb
You can use any name but less than 12 letters - so allgames fit in perfect
Or create a new 'Main menu' (chose 'Main menu' in menu type) and simply push save and give this new main menu a nice name - how about balder - he, he just joking
You can also create a new sub-menu and in 'main menu' create a new menu command: run allgames.ezb (or whatever name you use to your sub-menu)
Note: You can insert at least 9 menu commands to each menu and in theory have 35 sub-menus in work in same build.
I say it's close to no limit how big your build can grow with sub-menus and a lot of menu commands in each menu!
Quote: "how can I jump back to the menu.lst"
Some information concerning grub vs EasyBoot in post nr; 16 < HERE >
Using grub - jump to and from grub back to EasyBoot - can be a problem as you most likely are interested to hide (create Partition) and using password in Easyboot (the password approach is not the problem but 'Creating Partition' which is hided is a problem for grub)
Best approach is probably using 'grub-kicker-image' to call a menu.lst (can have a different name on root of USB device 'format.lst' or whatever)
But I have my doubt it works to 100% - perhaps sometimes and no guaranties
You may need to experiment on this field to find out what is possible and what is not.
But generally there is problem using grub in hided partition the way we do in EasyBoot.
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Quote: "But what I'm now making is Easyboot usb stick. Every Easyboot software are individual , but just the menu.lst and other say win7pe.lst , partition.lst , Acronis.lst"
This is a little confusing what you mean
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regards balder
Posted by allgames71 on Feb. 11 2012,23:24
Hello balder ,Thanks for your brief instructions. By taking reference of yours , I made my own mainmenu and by use of .ezb , I can jump (as you said) to any .ezb (any software) I want. It's not complicated but takes time to make it. But it worth to have a nice relationshop between Easyboot softwares.
So thanks again for your effort. Thanks
Posted by balder on Feb. 12 2012,05:06
@allgames71Some more information....
You have buttons: Make ISO, Burn, Tools and then button Options
Push to Options>>Configuration... and there you can set 'Screen Resolution' and 'Screen Mode'
Note: I always use '256 Color(8bits)' and mostly '1025x768' as Screen Resolution.
I use that as it to 99,99% works to all different motherboards.
If choosing 800x600 and 256 Color(8bits) you are guarantied it never fails to any computer (including 'mini-laptops')
If choosing 1024x768 16M Color(24bits) it wont work to computers 'with lower level graphic capacity' - typically those 'mini-laptops' that have poor graphic support in 'BIOS-mode'
Note: background picture (***.bmp) must in any case always exactly match settings above (8-bit bmp-picture 1025x768 as example) otherwise you get 'Background open Image Error' - menu is still working - but no background is showed
Basically you can only use one 'Password' and that is to the 'Main Menu'
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In Options>>Configuration... There is also a 'Enable Smooth Video' that I still haven't figured out how to use - I'll ask you @allgames71. Do you have any clue what this is and how to use it
regards balder
Posted by allgames71 on Feb. 15 2012,09:20
hello balder ,I'm really sorry that I though I've finished this topic already , and that's why I have'nt come back into here again for the time being.
quote : "There is also a 'Enable Smooth Video' that I still haven't figured out how to use "
I'm sorry I've no idea what this is this button for. If you don't raise this question , I even have'nt observe there's such thing.
For the hidden primary partition. I've made it one password only when the boot menu pop up. As you said , I just make all the software like a dvd. It means , every software item are in the starting menu with submenu , and use run xxx.ezb function to call the other softwares.
Thanks for all your tutorial and sorry I can't help you. Thanks