Forum: EasyBoot
Topic: Hirens Bot dvd 15.2 REstored edition
started by: pawelek

Posted by pawelek on Feb. 21 2014,01:48
How can integrated Hirens Bot dvd 15.2 REstored edition with windows
Posted by balder on Feb. 21 2014,03:15
@pawelek

Quote: "How can integrated Hirens Bot dvd 15.2 REstored edition with windows"

You must clarify some stuff to me... ???

1. What kind of Windows system are we dealing with here ???  Is it Nt-5-system (WinXP or similar) or is it NT-6-system (Vista or Win7 or Win8)

2. From where are you intension to run this very large build (DVD or USB drive)
Note: if DVD is the case, you will run into trouble as this build is larger than a 'standard DVD' (it requires a doubled-sized DVD)
Further more - build is larger than a 'standard UDF-build' which creates problems - read post 4 and 7 < HERE >

I'll say it wont work from an DVD, but might be possible to solve it if using USB drive (most likely if using USB hard drive)

Attention! I have found download of this Hiren but it takes me at least 2 days to download this version of Hiren :O
(I don't use Torrents only 'free download' which takes time)

regards balder



Posted by pawelek on Feb. 21 2014,05:26
I need this tols
1.Hirens Bot dvd 15.2 REstored edition (not all software )
2.windows 7

Size only one dvd 4.7 g

Posted by balder on Feb. 22 2014,01:57
@pawelek

I managed to download 'Hirens.Boot.DVD.15.2.Restored.Edition' :D

Test this solution:

1. Extract all files and folders from Hiren ISO-file to folder 'disk1' in EasyBoot

2. Delete folder 'boot' in 'EasyBoot\disk1'

3. Delete files 'autorun.inf' and 'bootmgr' in 'EasyBoot\disk1'

4. From source of Win7 copy (or extract from ISO-file) all files and folders to folder 'disk1'

5. Create menu entries in EasyBoot and use menu command to launch Win7:  run /bootmgr  
And menu command to Hiren:  run /hbcd/grldr

6. Tick 'Joliet' when creating ISO in EasyBoot

Optional (no need to do this but looks better out): Alternative method to launch 'Mini-Windows 7' in Hiren wont work anymore (we deleted folder 'boot' with its special made 'bcd-file' in step 2). No harm in this, but you can as option remove this menu entry in Hiren as this alternative method doesn't work anymore. To do this, follow this procedure:

A. Open text-file 'os.lst' in folder 'HBCD' (use notepad)

B. Delete this text:  title 3) Mini Windows 7 (Alternative Boot Method)\nIn case of problems with method 2.
find --set-root /HBCD/7/7.BIN
chainloader /bootmgr

C. Save changes to text-file still using name 'os.lst'
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Attention! No guaranties that the final (big!) ISO works, as you are creating a pretty big ISO which I by experience know creates problems ???
I basically can not give any support to such large builds - you are by your own on this 'mine- field'
Big ISO-files larger than 4.2 GB creates problems :O

regards balder



Posted by pawelek on Feb. 22 2014,03:04
Can i have windwows 7 pe and windows7 install version ?
Posted by balder on Feb. 22 2014,03:14
@pawelek

Quote: "Can i have windwows 7 pe and windows7 install version ?"

Yes this is easily solved as we can use ISO-file of Win7-PE directly avoiding extracting anything anywhere :;):
Do it this way:

1. Copy ISO-file of Win7-PE (msdart60/65/70 as example) to folder EZBOOT

2. Use menu command:  run msdart60.iso  (or whatever name you use to ISO-file)
Note: you can have several ISO-file (different versions of Win7-PE using different names)
Personally I prefer 'Active-BOOT-DISK-5' which also is based on NT6-system (Win7 is a NT6-system if you wonder) :cool:

But take in in mind that your final build no grows in size ???

regards balder

Posted by pawelek on Feb. 22 2014,03:19
I have one problem :(
I have windows7 wim image not iso

Posted by balder on Feb. 22 2014,05:23
@pawelek

Quote: "I have windows7 wim image not iso"

You mean you don't have a complete ISO-file of your WinPE ???

You can solve this by creating new ISO - use UltraIso or similar tool to create ISO - do it this way (UltraIso way)

In your folder that holds Win7-PE you must at least have following files and folders:

Folders/file: BOOT, EFI, and finally folder SOURCES and file BOOTMGR
Note: you might have more folders and files if it is a 'special version' of win7-PE (compare with Hiren) :O
If this is the case - also integrate these into ISO using method below :cool:

1. Launch UltraIso and press F3 (Add Files)

2. Mark and add all folders and files 'BOOT, EFI...' etcetera' (your Win7-PE files and folders)
You should now have added folders/file: BOOT, EFI, and folder SOURCES and file BOOTMGR in UltraIso
Optional: if you don't like to have 'Press any key to boot from ...' when you launch ISO, you simply delete file 'BOOTFIX.BIN' in folder 'BOOT'

3. In UltraIso choose 'Bootable>>Load Boot File' and scroll to folder EZBOOT and choose file 'vistaldr.bin' (you should have this file there from installation of EasyBoot)

4. Choose 'File>>Save' give ISO a nice name (win7pe or whatever)

Test that ISO works okay :;):

regards balder



Posted by pawelek on Feb. 22 2014,11:37
I have windows 7 pe version only in wim i can convert to iso ?
Posted by balder on Feb. 22 2014,12:12
@pawelek

Quote: "I have windows 7 pe version only in wim i can convert to iso"

No its not that easy :(  
To get the rest of folders and files on place takes the same procedure (and time) as finding different Win7PE on Internet :p

In fact, how do you at all now that this wim-file of yours is a 'real WinPE' what tool did you use to 'look into' this wim-file ???
You can use method < HERE > to 'mount' wim-file and by that you can extract it contents :O

Try to find some downloads - use Google and your imagination and I'm positive you can sort it out :;):

Or why not learn some new stuff - use WinBuilder to create you own specialized Win7PE - read and surf around < HERE >

regards balder



Posted by pawelek on Feb. 25 2014,02:48
Thx for help but not work for mee :(
When i boot from pendrive and want "Back to main menu" i have reset but when click mini xp , dos itd i take this messages
Memdisk: image has franctional end sectors

Posted by balder on Feb. 25 2014,03:42
@pawelek

Quote: ""Back to main menu" i have reset but when click mini xp"

Hmmm... I'm unsure what you mean ???
It seems to me you are able to launch Hiren's MiniXP and you want to jump back to the EasyBoot menu - is this correct?
If so, this is not possible :O

You can however jump back from a plain DOS-system (from an DOS-floppy image as example) to the main menu in EasyBoot (launch 'ezboot.com' from Autoexec in that DOS-environment)
But this is not the case here, as you launch MiniXP, which is a NT5-system and not DOS

By the way, what do you mean with quote: "i have reset" ???

Haven't you still not found one single ISO-file of any NT6-system om Internet to do some experiments to?
I mean some ISO-file of MsDart60/65/70 or similar
If found simply copy ISO to folder EZBOOT and use menu command:  run msdart60  (or whatever name you use to ISO-file)
This works from both CD\DVD-unit as from USB drive (regardless you use a USB stick-drive or a USB hard-drive)

Could you please explain a little bit more what files (Hiren or whatever) you want to use in EasyBoot :)
I'll do my very best as soon you give me a more clear picture what your goal is :;):
 
regards balder

Posted by pawelek on Feb. 25 2014,04:05
First video is here < http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=j8ip9v%3E&s=8 >
and second is here < http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=t69k7l%3E&s=8 >

Posted by balder on Feb. 25 2014,06:15
@pawelek

Hmmm... Still haven't got the full picture ???
However as far as I can find out, this problem of yours is totally related to the behaviour of Hiren? Correct me if I'm wrong!
You are currently trying to launch 'DOS programs' in Hiren and it seems to fail - correct?

What method did you use to integrate Hiren into EasyBoot?
Have you tested method described < HERE >(post nr;8)

I tested ISO created by EasyBoot (used 'MobaLive' download < HERE >)
Note: You don't need to create 'hard disk image' when mobalive asks
I also in EasyBoot 'Burn' to USB stick\thumb-drive and tested from USB

Tests worked fine - but there are some bugs in this Hiren I downloaded ???  (Hirens.Boot.DVD.15.2.Restored.Edition.1.0.January.2013)
I notice there are later versions out for download, and I guess some of the bugs has been fixed now
However these bugs are not related to your problems :cool:
 
regards balder