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balder 
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Posted on: Mar. 22 2010,02:07 |
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@Orochi
Quote from post nr; 28: ” Worse comes to worse I will have to use the other paragon image which worked for me fine for some reason.”
Well as method “paragon image” worked for you before it should work now as well – if not – there must bee some changes that shouldn’t been done 
Note: grub “kicker-image” is not case sensitive when used on FAT or FAT32 (FAT32 is used on USB device).
I have no problem with this “hiren issue”. Works on my barebone too – and this barebone is really sensitive as it uses USB-keyboard  Â
Edit: Please test this – copy following code into text file menu.lst that you have on the root of USB device:
title Mini Windows Xp\nRun Antivirus and other windows programs
find --set-root /HBCD/XPLOADER.BIN
chainloader /HBCD/XPLOADER.BIN
If this workaround works, then problem is related to how memory is used by EasyBoot - but could in fact only bee a problem for computer you currently use 
Regards balder
Edited by balder on Mar. 22 2010,02:44
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| Post Number: 42
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Orochi
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Posted on: Mar. 22 2010,13:30 |
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balder,
title Mini Windows Xp\n
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /HBCD/XPLOADER.BIN
chainloader /HBCD/XPLOADER.BIN
The above command works perfectly when; however I did not use it in the menu.lst of the root of the USB.
the above command was placed in the floppy image located in the easyboot dir. The image was a paragon floppy image.
The command used: run hiren.ima.
The problem is definitely has to do with the memory that is being used during the boot process.
When trying to run miniXP with the updated menu.lst from post 30, I get error exception that is very similar to memory error.
The only difference between the two commands:
title Mini Windows Xp\n
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /HBCD/XPLOADER.BIN
chainloader /HBCD/XPLOADER.BIN
and
title Mini Windows Xp\nRun Antivirus and other windows programs
find --set-root /HBCD/XPLOADER.BIN
chainloader /HBCD/XPLOADER.BIN
I don't know how important the --ignore-floppies line is. If it not important then the problem is with the new hiren floppy image itself.
Right now I am using floppy image from post 6. The menu.lst which is located inside that floppy and stored in the easyboot folder (NOT the ROOT OF the USB) looks like this.
color black/red yellow/black
timeout 10
title Start Hiren's BootCD
find --set-root /HBCD/boot.gz
map --mem /HBCD/boot.gz (fd0)
map --hook
chainloader (fd0)+1
rootnoverify (fd0)
map --floppies=1
boot
title Mini Windows Xp\n
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /HBCD/XPLOADER.BIN
chainloader /HBCD/XPLOADER.BIN
Of course I don't get to see any of the advanced menu features but that's ok. I will wait till this gets perfected somehow and more people try before I try to do anything else.
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| Post Number: 43
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balder
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Posted on: Mar. 22 2010,14:50 |
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@Orochi
Quote: “I don't know how important the --ignore-floppies line is.”
Well it’s there because I’m lazy – it is a rest from earlier use from CD/DVD-units.
However that --ignore-floppies line should bee a problem is interesting news – in fact – my brain is spinning from “removable” to “fixed” right now    Â
You can easily delete this --ignore-floppies line in downloaded hiren.zip-file to see if it works better. Maybe it is this particular computer that has some strange “fixed” memory area – or whatever
Quote: “I will wait till this gets perfected somehow and more people try before I try to do anything else.” Good point  – hope someone else that reading this topic can contribute to sort out problems discovered about this “hiren issue”.
Regards balder
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| Post Number: 44
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Orochi
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Posted on: Mar. 23 2010,18:24 |
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balder,
I checked once again. The problem that I have is related with the commands in the menu.lst in the hiren floppy image.
Possibly due to memory commands involving memdisk. Â
The other thing that could be done is to arrange hirenboot cd so it is started from within the main grub menu (the one with the penguin, blue theme). This way it will also be easier to update to future versions.
Anyways thank you so much for helping me and sharing your knowledge.
Very much appreciated and it is also fun 
Edited by Orochi on Mar. 23 2010,18:25
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| Post Number: 45
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balder
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Posted on: Mar. 24 2010,04:25 |
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@Orochi
Quote: “The problem that I have is related with the commands in the menu.lst in the hiren floppy image.”
Yes that could bee the case. Funny is that I can use this solution on 3 different computers without any problems
By curiosity – is this problem only related to when using hiren from USB device?
Quote: “started from within the main grub menu”
Yes you can use this option. But then you lose the nice graphical presentation - backgrounds etcetera that easyboot offers you. Basically you can copy text from “advanced menu” to menu-lst on USB device. Note: only 8 lines are showed at same time from grub menu – you have to use arrow keys (“down arrow”) to reach the other ones not presented on screen – commands are there, but not visible - there are not space enough on the screen to show all at same time
Anyway - thanks for sharing your experiments – you are always welcome
Regards balder
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| Post Number: 46
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Orochi
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Posted on: Mar. 25 2010,13:08 |
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balder thank you again.
All the tests conducted were done through USB drive only.
I will wait a bit longer for more test from other members and maybe attaempt do something again once hire 10.3 is released
All the best to you, your scripts are priceless
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| Post Number: 47
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Orochi
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Posted on: Apr. 07 2010,14:52 |
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balder,
I was just wondering if the approach to hiren bootcd 10.4 is the same as for 10.2?
Thank you.
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| Post Number: 48
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balder
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Posted on: Apr. 07 2010,16:19 |
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@Orochi
Quote: ”I was just wondering if the approach to hiren bootcd 10.4 is the same as for 10.2?”
Well, the only major difference that I have found out so far is that utility “Kon-Boot” now is a part of Hiren boot-cd – rest of CD looks to be the same
But – he, he   – what is it that you “really” with this question, want to achieve?
Regards balder
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Orochi
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Posted on: Apr. 07 2010,16:34 |
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balder, well LOL you are pretty smart guy
I want to give it another shot at booting hiren from usb together with easyboot.
And since the last method did not work for me I am waiting for something to change so we can come up with a different method.
PS. I want to see what's gonna happen if write hiren to usb using this method. http://www.hirensbootcd.net/usb-booting.html
Then I can check what commands the program is using in the menu.lst. Then try to compare to the menu.lst that you posted in your hiren.zip image.
Edited by Orochi on Apr. 07 2010,16:38
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balder
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Posted on: Apr. 08 2010,04:13 |
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@Orochi
Okay – I got the ”message”
You can of course always try method used in Post Number: 32
Note: this is only for USB approach and not to be used when using hiren on CD/DVD
Test and trial is the name of the game. I run a lot of these “games” – and I can tell you that sometimes it’s a endless “pain” to figure out what and how to get things up and run as expected – he, he welcome aboard and test “Test and trial is the name of the game”
Tested “unetbootin” and chose hiren-ISO as target during test. USB device booted fine and I can use everything except MiniXP – that failed completely . But if using my hiren.zip-file and launched this in EasyBoot (memdisk hiren.zip) I can use everything in Hiren – including MiniXP that works perfectly (I can even use network as well).
Note: “unetbootin” uses linux (or isolinux).
I don’t understand why you cannot use this simple method to launch MiniXP – I’m going “nuts” over this issue (it’s a “pain”)
Edit: Test this method from Hiren homepage HERE.
Note: you can make USB drive bootable using my script EasyBoot-USB.script
Can you get MiniXP up and run this way?
Regards balder
Edited by balder on Apr. 08 2010,08:18
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