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srk999 
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Posted on: Mar. 31 2011,13:49 |
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The main problem we face today with multiboot using EZB or any other method is overlapping content, such as I386 folders etc. If it was possible to extract bif from multiple EZB ISOs and put them into a new ISO, that could solve the problem.
For example, let's say we have ERD 5.0 and ERD 6.5 in one EZB ISO, and WinXP and Win7 installers in another EZB ISO. Putting ERDs together with corresponding OS is fairly tricky. Is it possible to make another EZB ISO (containing the ERD and OS ISOs), that will call the ERD and OS ISOs (contents) from the menu?
Note: I am using the term ISO loosely.
I am thinking of this because I am facing problem with overlapping folders (i368, boot, etc.). If there is already a solution to this problem please let me know.
Edited by srk999 on Mar. 31 2011,13:52
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balder
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Posted on: Mar. 31 2011,15:00 |
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@srk999
Wellcome to this forum @srk999 
Quote: ” If there is already a solution to this problem please let me know”
Well… yes and no at the same time 
I can understand your wishes to that “easy solution”.
Unfortunately it’s not that easy!
To have several different setup of NT5-systems (WinXP, server-2003, server-2000 etcetera) that all use the same folder i386 is easy to solve.
There is now problem whatsoever to create a multi-boot DVD with all kinds of NT5-systems on the same root (folder disk1 is the root for EasyBoot if you wonder).
You can also do the same to ERD5-series and ERD7 etcetera.
But there is a problem with linux/isolinux-systems as it is common to use a folder “boot” in those systems.
But salvation is close to solve this problem
In most cases we are able to launch ISO-files of linux/isolinux-systems (ISO mostly used as “live-applications”) as the are.
We are also able to launch ISO-files of ERD5,ERD7, Ghost15, MsDart60, MsDart65 etcetera.
You don’t need to extract anything anywhere as ISO-files can be used as they are.
To make this happen you can use my script collection (you find download below in every post I write).
Read carefully “READ_ME.html” in download before you go ahead.
Scripts can create All-In-One-setup for NT5-systems (WinXP etcetera with a breeze) 
Scripts can make USB devices bootable and launch EasyBoot from USB device (preferably USB stick\thumb-drives).
And script can do more than that – download and find out your self 
The best part is that it is free to use for non-commercial use – no registration or anything 
balder
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srk999
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Posted on: Mar. 31 2011,19:05 |
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Hi Balder. Thanks for the quick reply.
I am still having problem with ERD. Probably because when I use the AIO Script, it sees the ERDs as XP installers, and creates sif. AIO also seems to have trouble with regular XP installation. The XPSP3 ISO I am using is downloaded from MSDNAA, therefore in untouched form. I also tried a slipstreamed trimmed down version of XPSP3. In both cases the installation gets stuck at "Setup is checking for hardware..." black screen.
I am going to try out the other scripts. Easyboot-ISO looks pretty tempting at the moment. If all fails, ERD is not the end of the world.
** EDIT **
ERDs belong to Live script I think. Should have read everything before I posted.
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Balder, I know this is a winbuilder issue, in the next update can you please modify winbuilder so that we can keep the tutorials open while working on winbuilder, if possible. I have tried memorizing the instructions before getting to work. But a man can take in only so much before he feels stuffed.
** EDIT 3**
Is it normal if Easyboot-ISO gets stuck at defragmentation? Defrag is marked "recommended".
Edited by srk999 on Mar. 31 2011,20:05
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balder
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Posted on: Apr. 01 2011,00:10 |
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@srk999
Quote: “Setup is checking for hardware... black screen”
A lot of people run this script without problem and I also have tested with sources from both English as my native language and tested XP_sp1, XP_sp2 and XP_sp3 without problems
Slipstreamed source shouldn’t be any problems, except “Nlighted” source that can course some unwanted behaviour from source itself.
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Quote: “ERDs belong to Live script I think”
Yes this is correct, as ERD is a “Live-system” and not a system that you install on your harddisk.
Note: I advice you to use easyboot-iso.script to ERD and in this case, check “Run ISO from Ram” as this ERD is based on NT5-system (folder i386 - look inside ISO-file).
Note: you can launch ISO-files of ERD5,ERD7, Ghost15, MsDart60, MsDart65 etcetera using script easyboot-iso.script
You automatically get the right menu command by script in the end of process.
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Quote: “But a man can take in only so much before he feels stuffed”
Well you are similar to myself – are you by any chance a unknown distant relative (or collateral) 
He, he just joking
Unfortunately I cannot modify WinBuilder as I haven’t designed this “script-engine” and further more – I don’t have the rights to modify the “core” anyway 
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Quote: “Is it normal if Easyboot-ISO gets stuck at defragmentation?”
No it is not!
However you can of course uncheck “defragmentation” to se if it runs smother that way.
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I’m curios What system are you running? WinXP or Vista or Win7
If running Vista or Win7, you must run every script with “Full Admin rights" and even more important - set UAC (User-Account-Control) to the lowest level – otherwise command-lines tools that is used in script is prohibit to run smooth (built-in defragmentation tool in script is such command-line tool).
However, running scripts in WinXP shouldn’t be any problem.
balder
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srk999
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Posted on: Apr. 01 2011,16:53 |
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Hey balder. I can't thank you enough.
I am getting very good success rate with Easyboot-ISO script. Whatever isn't working without "ISO from ram" (other than i386 ISOs) is working with "ISO from ram". Trying out 12 antivirus rescue CDs, and all of them work.
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balder
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Posted on: Apr. 01 2011,18:17 |
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@srk999
Quote: ” I can't thank you enough”
Your success is the real “thank you” - though it’s nice with feedback that say “Thank you”
Note: not all ISO-files can be launched directly but there is mostly “work-arounds” to solve the “impossible” ones - using my kind of “frugal solution”
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Its bedtime - wife is already sleeping and snores  – so I use the second bedroom this night
Regards balder
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srk999
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Posted on: Apr. 02 2011,02:46 |
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I am facing a problem that seems to be common to all Linux based ISOs, including most of the AV rescue CDs, Trinity Rescue CD, and Ubuntu.
Here are some of the error messages from several Linux based ISOs:
QUOTE Cannot find boot device.
Can't find Gdata filesystem
No bootable medium found
Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
And, Windows XP and 7 seems to be unable to install from ISO (even with "Run ISO from RAM" option).
Error message:
QUOTE A required CD/DVD device driver is missing
A required CD/DVD device driver is missing
I am using VirtualBox to test out the resulting ISO.
On the bright side, all the ERDs are working with the help of Easyboot-ISO script.
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balder
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Posted on: Apr. 02 2011,05:04 |
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@srk999
Quote: “On the bright side, all the ERDs are working with the help of Easyboot-ISO script”
As expected
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Quote: ” Windows XP and 7 seems to be unable to install from ISO”
Sure it doesn’t work – because it can’t work this way
You cannot launch setup of WinXP or Win7 from ISO run from a DVD-unit!
These kinds of ISO is “hard-coded”.
I quote from description in script: “there is no such thing as a "free lunch" - grub cannot launch some ISO-files. Test and see your self what ISO-files that can bee launched directly this way”.
For “hard-coded” ISO-files - you must extract files to the root (the root for easyboot is disk1 if you wonder)
This is a fact at least when run from CD/DVD-unit.
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For the quote: “common to all Linux based ISOs”
You need to use the “search”-function in the upper right corner
Choose both “Older” as Newer” with search-words like ubuntu etcetera to see what solution that’s been presented.
Note: I have no solution for trinity – as this is a real hard nut to crack 
As example - I searched for a solution to Ubuntu and found this HERE
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Quote: “AV rescue CDs” I guess you mean this one HERE
I tested using easyboot-iso-file and it looks to run correctly (at least from virtual pc)
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Note: I cannot – and will not – test all this stuff from a “real CD/DVD” as this take far to much time and efforts
I can only give you results for each solution tested in “virtual environment” and not the whole complex build (which I guess is very large in size).
Regards balder
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srk999
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Posted on: Apr. 02 2011,10:24 |
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hi balder
QUOTE Sure it doesn’t work – because it can’t work this way You cannot launch setup of WinXP or Win7 from ISO run from a DVD-unit! These kinds of ISO is “hard-coded”.
I was thinking the same thing about windows xp and 7. Since they are not meant to be live CDs in the first place.
I am going to try the Ubuntu method in all the Linux based ISOs. I'll let you know how it goes.
QUOTE "I guess you mean this one HERE"
Coincidentally that's the only AV rescue CD out of 12 that worked. Which is better than nothing.
QUOTE Note: I cannot – and will not – test all this stuff from a “real CD/DVD” as this take far to much time and efforts I can only give you results for each solution tested in “virtual environment” and not the whole complex build (which I guess is very large in size).
Please don't do my work. You are doing more enough to help me already. All the little bits and pieces of info I gave, such as- "I am using VirtualBox to test out the resulting ISO." are in hope that someone might have faced similar problems in similar settings.
Cheers.
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balder
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Posted on: Apr. 02 2011,16:20 |
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@srk999
Quote: ”I am going to try the Ubuntu method in all the Linux based ISOs. I'll let you know how it goes”
You cannot use downloaded “ubuntu.zip” to different Linux based ISO-files
This “ubuntu.zip” is specially designed to support Ubuntu-10 or similar.
It might look complicated but is in the end quite simple.
What easyboot-iso.script do is:
Creating floppy image (floppy image that have the special grub boot-sector and not a dos-boot-sector) and then inject a text-file “menu.lst” suitable to the name you set in script for your ISO-file.
However in the case with ubuntu, there are more sophisticated command-lines that make it possible to launch ISO as it is – even it is a ubuntu.iso.
Therefore I have a special made “kicker-image” suitable just for launching ubuntu and nothing else 
Note: you can open (extract) floppy image from ubuntu.zip and extract text-file “menu.lst” which is the file that controls commands in grub.
This means that it is possible to modify this menu.lst to use different command-lines.
In fact, you can create your own “grub-kicker-image” using “easyboot-kicker-image.script"
Further more, script has capacity to create DOS-images and help you inject files into it and also has option to create a 2.88 MB-sized floppy image and on the top of that, compress floppy image (using gzip) to shrink image which then can be launched using “memdisk”-command in easyboot menu.
You also have a link in script to DOS-files in case you have lost your own
balder
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