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Orochi

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Posted on: Apr. 10 2011,17:47

balder thank you for your explanation.

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I just think when you can get the best – you shall use the best (put the right MBR-code to USB stick).

I agree with you.

Is your usb script capable of making perfect geometry in regards to CHS and LBA? Will it correct the current difference? If yes, I will try running your script again and let you know whether I could boot to grub menu.

What other usb format tools that are good can you recommend. Is bootice any good?

Are these usb format tools unique or I can achieve the same by simply using any decent partition manager and formating my usb with FAT32.

EDIT:
I ran your usb script. Everything went ok and I was able to get to grub menu.

I then decided to check partition using program called testdisk. (http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk)

CHS 1952 vs LBA 1951

Edited by Orochi on Apr. 10 2011,20:53

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balder

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Posted on: Apr. 11 2011,02:12

Skip to the previous post in this topic.

@ Orochi

Quote: ”Are these usb format tools unique or I can achieve the same by simply using any decent partition manager and formating my usb with FAT32”

Tested following:
1. Used HP tool to format USB (doesn’t matter if you use full or quick format). Result from testing with “TestDisk” ended as expected with “Bad sector count” – and same when run partition magiq-8 (floppy image launched from Easyboot-menu)

2. Used easyboot-usb-ghost.script (Repair MBR-BOOT-record). Result from testing with “TestDisk” ended as expected WITHOUT any “Bad sector count” reported= well working USB volume :laugh:

3. Again used Used HP tool to format USB and at once (as expected) “Bad sector count” is showed in log from “TestDisk”. Run Windows format to USB (doesn’t matter if you use full or quick format) – same result: “Bad sector count”. Again used easyboot-usb-ghost.script (Repair MBR-BOOT-record). Result from testing with “TestDisk” ended as expected WITHOUT any “Bad sector count” reported= well working USB volume
4. I’m not 100% sure if “BOOTICE.EXE” can “reverse” USB stick back to the “right track”
Note: My scripts that has capacity to format USB devices, DO NOT “reset” your USB stick to a correct structure

Conclusion from above…
Don’t use HP format tool

If this been done earlier to your USB stick(s)– run easyboot-usb-ghost.script and choose to “Repair MBR-BOOT-record”. This guarantees a correct structure to your USB stick :;):

Basically – don’t use HP format tool anymore!
And as it seems that you do have Ghost.exe (version 8 is recommended) in your “arsenal” of tools, then you can “repair” (or shall we say “reset”) your USB stick(s) to a correct structure in a breeze
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Note: my scripts that has capacity to format your USB device(s) uses several different methods to format its target (your USB device).
1. If USB device is a “fixed” device (usually “hard-disk”), script use “Format.com” (built-in in your Windows=same as you right-click to USB in Explorer in your Windows system and choose to Format – very reliable).
2. If USB device is a “removable” disk, script uses its own built-in command line tool to format USB (quick format). Note: script examines your USB device and then quickly decides what’s should be the right strategy to format your USB device to the right structure.
3. If USB device is a “removable” disk and larger than 32 GB, script creates NTFS-file-system on USB device (regardless if it is a “fixed” or “removable” disk but can be overridden by checking “Force Format to FAT32”). If USB device is smaller than 32GB - script uses FAT32 as file-system. You don’t need to worry about this – script is designed to use the most optimal solution to your USB device that is “common used” (or “world-wide” recommended).

I’m positive that we now - at this point - can agree that HP format tool is “out of date”, and not recommended to format any USB stick\Thumb-drive

Eeeee... I do hope that I haven’t worried you to much with this “academic” discussion – and instead make sure your USB stick(s) from this point uses the most optimal structure=the most optimal bootable structure we have knowledge in.

Regards balder

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Orochi

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Posted on: Apr. 11 2011,03:44

Hello balder thank you for the info.

I was able to replicate the "bad sector count" error in testdisk using 1gb usb stick.
Just out of curiosity what size usb sticks did you use in your analysis in the post above mine?

I will stay away from HP usb format. ;)

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Eeeee... I do hope that I haven’t worried you to much with this “academic” discussion –

HAHAHA

not at all. Thank you for such discussion. I am learning new things everyday.

EDIT

Just checked BOOTICE. I think it works great. It has many format options and also I did not get any errors in testdisk.

Also thank you kindly for sharing your knowledge and for an amazing set of scripts. No more HP format for me ;)

Best Regards balder !!!

Edited by Orochi on Apr. 11 2011,03:52

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balder

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Posted on: Apr. 11 2011,04:03

@ Orochi

Quote: ” Just out of curiosity what size usb sticks did you use in your analysis in the post above mine”

I used one 512MB USB stick and one 16GB USB stick.
Funny part is that when run testdisk_win.exe to 16GB stick program reported “Bas Sector” even there is no “Bad Sector”

This doesn’t happen to my 512MB stick – so I don’t to 100% trust test result given by “testdisk_win.exe”

In my opinion best test result is given by run partition magiq-8 from floppy (Symantec for sure now how to play “the game”).

If I use HP format tool to USB stick (any stick) I cannot run old DOS-programs like “Partition-Commander” – it stalls and cannot understand the structure of the USB that have “Bad Sector”

We are back to “base camp” – don’t use HP format tool.

Quote: “Just checked BOOTICE. I think it works great”
Sure – it is a great tool – small and efficient too

But the best part is this:
Quote: “I will stay away from HP usb format”

He, he you have my blessing

Regards balder

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