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AltairAC 
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Posted on: Apr. 28 2011,23:41 |
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UPDATE:
Project 2 is done, with some modifications but ok 
I decided to add Windows XP Lite instead of the trouble making liveOS. Then I burnt the .ISO file to dvd and tested everything. Fedora, Samity and Windows 7 Extreme Edition didn't work but luckily it was my fault for the Distro's.
Fedora - for some to me unknown reason I changed the label when creating the final .iso, that messed up Fedora.
Samity - I accidentally deleted the main file from the disk1 folder 
Windows 7 Extreme Edition didn't work on Virtual Box(neither did the original iso file) but I thought it would work on the dvd drive but it didn't so I removed it (in my second try) because it looks like it's just a bad release.
So I added Win7 repair disks instead.
Anyway, here it is:
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/7600/project2done.jpg
and EVERYTHING WORKS!!!! thanks balder!
Regarding to project 1, by switching from project to project, removing the 1 of the 2 XP modifications I removed the original XP systems by accident  , so I have to do everything (expect the menu and commands) from scratch. -_-
But in the meantime I started on my Project 3, I took the project 2 menu for a start. For now I have these 8 Distro's
I had to hex edit but also some didn't worked by just following the linux guide but I got everything to work by editing the isolinux.cfg files of 2 of the Distro's, so for know everything is fine, if I have some issues I let you know  .
Regards, Altair
P.S. How do you make those special kicker images, Ubuntu for example? I don't want a tutorial but to know what do I have to learn. For now I have seen that messing with boot system involves cdshell and grub.
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balder
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Posted on: Apr. 29 2011,02:37 |
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@AltairAC
Quote: “How do you make those special kicker images”
You can manipulate these using two different methods
Method one:
Extract floppy image from UBUNTU.ZIP-file
You now have an “ubuntu.ima”
Open ubuntu.ima (I use UltraIso for this operation) and extract text file “menu.lst”
It’s this simple text-file that controls commands in grub.
Note: floppy image is "injected" with grub boot-sector and is not using the "standard" DOS-boot-sector.
You can modify menu.lst to do something different.
Let’s ay you want to create a “reboot-kicker-image”
You then simply modify menu.lst to only have text:
timeout 0
reboot
Save changes to menu.lst and inject it back to ubuntu.ima and save image with a more appropriate name like: reboot.ima
It’s optional to zip image (not needed) but shrink the image.
If using zip to image you must use menu command in EasyBoot: memdisk reboot.zip (run reboot.zip doesn’t work).
Attention! You are recommended to always use the "memdisk" menu command in EasyBoot to avoid the need to check "Allow Lower Case" when launching “grub-kicker-images” - zipped or not 
It’s a little bit more complicated but just following my recommendations and I’m convinced you in the future can launch plenty of different ISO-files\distro’s from EasyBoot menu
Method two is to use my script “easyboot-kicker-image”
This script also support creating of DOS-images
Script can also create double-sized floppy images in a breeze
And further more - script also has built-in g-zip to images.
Note: the "DOS-section" in script can also as option ”inject” NT-BOOT-sector to created DOS-floppy to be used in specially occasions.
And finally
You can find plenty of information what (and how) ISO-files that can be launched directly using my “kicker-images” setting the right parameters in menu.lst – read HERE
And you can read more about grub and different commands HERE
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And what is the point with this arrangement you may ask?
Well we tending to use USB stick (or similar) and I have proved it’s possible to launch EasyBoot from USB.
However we cannot use Easyboot “standard” command for reboot from USB – the same to boot harddisk unit.
It’s here kicker-images comes in handy.
Same problem to launch ISO-files or other distro’s - we to 99% need those kicker-images to make this possible.
Regards balder
Edited by balder on Apr. 29 2011,11:42
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AltairAC
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Posted on: Apr. 29 2011,23:29 |
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I think this will be the last question (hopefully).
Is there any chance to integrate 2 versions of Hiren's Boot CD?
The versions are 10.6 and 13.2 (newest).
Version 10.6 - I tried it on my own, then some tutorials for older versions but at the end I integrated it with your script and when creating the iso I checked "Allow lower case". It works, some DOS tools don't but I guess it can't work on VirtualBox 100%.
I successfully integrated version 13.2 with you script but the problem is that folder has to be the same in order to work so I tried it manually. First I left it as it is original, the HBCD folder and I successfully launched Hiren's Boot CD 13.2 in 2 ways/commands (both work equally good):
CODE bcdw /HBCD/isolinux.bin /HBCD/linux initrd=/HBCD/boot.gz
or
bcdw /HBCD/isolinux.bin /HBCD/memdisk initrd=/HBCD/boot.gz
Then I tried to change the name of the folder to HB13 and with Notepad++ automatic replace, I replaced all of the HBCD instances with HB13. I successfully launched the DOS programs menu but not the main menu (by using the same commands, just replacing HBCD with HB13). Then I extracted the img file from boot.gz and with UltraISO extracted the files from img file, replaced all the HBCD instances with HB13, packed the files back in the img file and made a new boot.gz with 7zip. Again when I booted I came to the DOS programs menu automatically and received a new error when launching a DOS based utility that a file is maybe corrupt. I don't know if that has something to do with 7zip gzip method :/ .
I just wanted to know if you have any ideas, if it's complicated then I won't bother you and I will integrate them on seperate DVD's.
Edited by AltairAC on Apr. 29 2011,23:32
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balder
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Posted on: Apr. 30 2011,00:52 |
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@AltairAC
Quote1: “Is there any chance to integrate 2 versions of Hiren's Boot CD?”
Quote2: “won't bother you and I will integrate them on seperate DVD's”
If I was you, I’ll stick to that second decision 
Hiren 13.2 is isolinux-based and it’s really not worth all work to change folder-name HBCD
Regards balder
Edited by balder on Apr. 30 2011,00:52
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AltairAC
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Posted on: Apr. 30 2011,23:31 |
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I finished my project 3, everything works on virtual box but Damn small linux doesn't work on dvd. I know why, I forgot the "minirt24.gz" editing part described in the linux guide. I forgot to do it because I tested all the stuff and in Virtual Box everything works.
I don't want to waste another dvd just because of that and I wanted to ask if there is a way to launch Damn Small Linux so that he uses the knoppix file from a different folder?
From what I googled, I found this: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Cheat_Codes
and the thing I need from this site would be this:
QUOTE root={hda1 / sda1/ floppy } Specify root device / partition. In frugal / persistent installs, specifies where the linux cloop file KNOPPIX resides. Without this as a cheat code or boot menu parameter, the kernel will panic. knoppix_dir=<path to dir w/o leading "/"> In frugal installs, specifies the directory name of the linux cloop file KNOPPIX if other than /KNOPPIX/. Use in conjunction with root=
but I don't understand how to work with that, I have little knowledge about linux. When I boot Damn Small Linux I get to the menu and I am asked to either press enter to boot or F2 or F3 for different options but I can also write commands after a "boot: " text under the menu options.
As I understood it, the command should look like this:
CODE dsl root=/dev/sr0 knoppix_folder=/DSLINUX/
I have Ubuntu in multiboot so I checked and it says that my dvd drive is sr0 so I put that in as the root. On Virtual Box I tried similar commands and got an error but with the above command it worked but it doesn't work on dvd.
I don't know if it's relevant since I know why it doesn't work but here is the error text:
QUOTE Cannot find KNOPPIX filesystem, sorry. Dropping you to a (very limited) shell.
Edited by AltairAC on Apr. 30 2011,23:34
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balder
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Posted on: May 01 2011,01:17 |
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@AltairAC
Quote1: “is a way to launch Damn Small Linux so that he uses the knoppix file from a different folder?”
Yes there are
Download “initrd.iso” of DSL from HERE
Use my script “easyboot-iso.script” to integrate ISO to EasyBoot (I used the simple name DSL in text-box in script).
Note: check "Joliet" when creating ISO in EasyBoot!
However, on some motherboards there might be problem with mouse support!
The issue concerning UBUNTU 
Well I can launch UBUNTU using the “grub-kicker-image” (post nr; 8).
I mostly test these stuff using a USB stick.
If I’m able to launch distro’s from USB, I cannot see that it should be any problem from DVD
In fact, it’s more hazardous to launch from USB as ISO-files must be “contiguous” otherwise it won’t work.
He, he luckily my scripts that handle USB, has built-in automatically defragmentation of ISO-files 
Anyway – test DSL launching ISO-file without extracting anything to see if this can be the workaround you are looking for
Regards balder
Edited by balder on May 01 2011,07:33
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