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PostIcon Posted on: Jan. 14 2012,14:56  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

@allgames71

Quote: "everytime I use a usb stick , it all succeed to boot that xpe.iso"

Hmm... Okay, recommended instruction given by me to launch RXPE.ISO is basically correct - however the USB harddisk case is giving us some 'headache' :(

Did some tests to my 500 GB Buffalo USB harddisk (with a lot of other files and folders 'onboard' the harddisk).

Test-1: Used 'easyboot-iUSB_v2.script' to integrate EasyBoot.ISO (with RXPE.ISO inside = launch RXPE from EasyBoot menu) and this to partition-1 (NTFS).
Worked just fine - I could launch RXPE.ISO from Easyboot menu :)

Test-2. Copied EasyBoot.ISO to partition-2 (FAT32) and changed 'menu.lst' in partition-1 to this:

title Launch easyboot
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /easyboot.iso
map /easyboot.iso (hd32)
map --hook
chainloader (hd32)
boot

And I have success again - RXPE.ISO could be launched from EasyBoot menu (EasyBoot.ISO on partition-2) without hesitating :)

@allgames71 - I think you are affected by file system fragmentation to your USB partitions.
Read HERE


Note: We know to 100% how to launch RXPE.ISO, but ISO-file is fragmented in some way in the same moment as when you copy file to your USB harddisk (regardless what partition you test to).

It must be something with your USB harddisk that makes ISO-file fragmented.

And you (or I) cannot understand why and how

I can only point to is this simple guide HERE

Do it to each partition on your USB harddisk.
However - even this is done the 'file system fragmentation' still can create trouble to you :(


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hello balder ,

I've try your test in 2 ways in NTFS and Fat32 partition format , but all failed as before with a black booting screen.

Before , I've been using this rxpe well. So I copy all it's files , iso and menu.lst from my backup to this new 160GB with Win8USB exactly in the same location , but also failed.

Quote : Test-2. Copied EasyBoot.ISO to partition-2 (FAT32) and changed 'menu.lst' in partition-1 to this:

Your partition-2 is Fat32 format that let me think you're testing this in a normal partition and not win8usb partition (special partition). As for Win8usb partition mentioned before it sould be like this :

1st primary partition : 350MB (NTFS)
2nd primary parittion : the rest of the 160GB usb hd space (NTFS) , this is for Win8 Windows storage.

I always guess this 2 partitions made by PWCreator is very special. So if you want to find out the possibility of rxpe , you must test rxpe in this 2 special partitions and not self-made partitions.

I know if you test in your own made partitions , it is ok like before that I've been using nomatter the partition is in NTFS or Fat32 format.

Anyway , thanks for your patience to me and using your time. If nothing can be done. I'm going to drop it off.

Thanks for your helping.
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Quote: "If nothing can be done"

Trust me - it CAN be done :D
Attention! I didn't use pwcreator.exe and I didn't need to install Win-8 at all to my computer :cool:

I used following trick to install Win-8 to my USB harddisk (partition-1):

1. Create your different partitions using in Windows built-in 'diskmgmt.msc' (C:\Windows\System32\diskmgmt.msc)

2. Make partition-1 to NTFS and the rest of partitions (size and file-system) as it fit your needs

3. Follow guide-lines HERE
(differences in my case was that I skipped '/f ALL' when I configured the boot files - but test in tutorial fully showed command just in case - I also skipped step 1 to 9 as I created my partitions using 'manually' method in step 2 and finally I didn't download 'AIK' as I found imagex.exe on Internet right away)

4. I created my EasyBoot.ISO included RXPE.ISO in EasyBoot menu (having RXPE.ISO in folder ezboot as usual). I also used 'run setupnt6.img' in EasyBoot menu to launch installed Win-8 on USB harddisk from EasyBoot menu.
And finally - to start from my 'real' harddisk, I used 'run harddisk.img' in EasyBoot menu (harddisk.img from my script-collection 'balder\USB_Resources')

5. I used my script 'easyboot'usb_v2.script' to create grub MBR to USB harddisk and to correctly move EasyBoot.ISO to USB harddisk.

EDIT:
I forgot to mention... To format second partition to FAT32 I was forced to use a 'third part tool' as Windows-7 'diskmgmt.msc' refuses to format USB harddisk units to FAT32 (I used my 'old' Paragon format tool to execute this to partition-2 on USB harddisk)


And the result is... Excellent :laugh:
I'm able to launch RXPE.ISO from EasyBoot menu (as expected) and also to launch Win-8 (run setupnt6.img in EasyBoot menu) installed to my 500GB USB harddisk.
I also have a second FAT32 partition to make it possible to launch Linux\Isolinux ISO-files (typically YLMF.ISO and similar distro's)

I'm amazed it worked :O
He, he - once more time you gave me new hints what is possible :;):  - thank you @allgames71

Best regards balder


Edited by balder on Jan. 16 2012,05:06

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hello balder ,

Thanks for your patient assistance. I made all my Easyboot software OK. And RXPE is fine also. It's all of your effort.

I have to say thanks again as all my Easyboot stuff work normal like before including Win8USB.

I've check that the partition 2 either in Fat32 or NTFS are also workable. But you said you have to use it in Fat32 format for Linux wares. Before I've asked about what to do with BartPE. At that time my usb hd's partition 1 is NTFS format. I'll try to put this BartPE to 2nd partition Fat32 , see if it's not that complicated.

blader , I've an impolite request , I want to ask you about the Win7 driver question. But this question shouldn't be appear here. So would you mind to email me your email address. So I can ask you about this in private ? Actually my question is also about the Win7 OS on usb hd.

My email address is :
allgames71@gmail.com

Thanks again for finishing up all my problem.
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@allgames71

First of all - important!!!
Did you use tutorial given in post nr; 33 ???
I ask because I have created a working script that fully automatically install Win-8 to USB drive (USB stick\Thumb-drive or USB hard-disk).
Script works great - I have tested it to my 500GB USB Buffalo hard-disk without problems :;):

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Quote: "I'll try to put this BartPE to 2nd partition Fat32"

Recommended is to use the ISO-file created by BartPE (at least if it is reasonable in size = less than 500MB in size).
However you must use my script 'easyboot-iso.script' and check 'Run ISO from RAM' to integrate BartPE-ISO as BartPE is built from source of an NT5-system (WinXP or server-2003 or similar).

RAM-approach to BartPE works from both FAT32 as from NTFS - no problems there :cool:

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Again I repeat; did you use tutorial given in post nr; 33 to setup Win-8 to USB drive ???

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hello balder ,

Yes , I did use post nr; 33 tutorial to install my Win8USB. Unlike PWCreater , this one only need one partition for the work only. Besides , you can made any size of this partition as you wish manually.

That's why it's a great different from PWCreater , which you can't resize any of it's partition. Otherwise the RXPE will failure to boot normal.

Thanks for your adviced webpage. By the way , in your reply you didn't mention do you accept my suggestion to give me your email adress. Hope you can do that , as my question is to some extend related to Easyboot also.

Thanks again.
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@allgames71

I did send a message but unfortunately I did it from my 'workstation' as well - I guess I forgot to use my brain :(

You should already now received e-mail with instructions which e-mail account to use :O
If not use EasyBoot 'Your Messenger' in the upper right corner :;):

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hello balder ,

I've already sended you a email about Win7 OS drivers.

Thanks.
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