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ricfil 
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Posted on: Jun. 12 2012,15:50 |
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Ok. I´m back after some testing. I´ve just tried creating an iso with erd commander only on it using Balders script "easyboot iso". An erro occurs whenever I try to do so. The same error apearde the last time a tryed to run the script on my project (managed to stop that from happenning renaming the iso). This time, even if renaiming only to ERD it comes back with the same error. here goes the error info:
"FileCopy - Failed to copy [%BaseDir%\Temp\newimage\ERD.img] to: [C:\EasyBoot\disk1\ISO\ERD]"
Relating the usb boot thing, that would be my next step (if I managed to create the bootable) DVD which is becoming a hard thing to do 
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I´ve tried creating a bootable usb with easyboot Balders usb v2 script, but a warning appears saying several usb devices are conected to my pc, and that I need to umplug them. I do have HDDs conected to the pc but they all are disconected from power (only the mouse is usb feed).... kind of stuck in a root right know...
P.S: The ERD Commander iso file is 184 MB large on its own and works flawlessly on VMs and also on every and each computer I throw it at on a single cd... Shouldn´t it behave the same on its own if motherboard issues were to happen?...Strange to say the least. I´ve read more people having the exact same issue with this iso. 
Thanks for the help man.
Edited by ricfil on Jun. 12 2012,16:06
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balder
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2012,03:50 |
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@ricfil
Quote: "I´ve read more people having the exact same issue with this iso"
You (hopefully) did read the help-file 'READ_ME.html' in folder 'balder'
If not - please read and watch also to the flash-movie integrated into help-file...
Important:
1. Extract folder balder to the root (C:\)
2. Run EasyBoot from the root (C:\) as well
3. Do not have spaces in name to file(s) and folder(s)
4. Turn off virus protection (if used)
5. If run in Win7 - set UAC (User-Account-Control) to lowest level (reboot computer to make change take affect)
Note: all this is described in 'READ_ME.html' (including a link to an flash movie showing how script is used).
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Quote: "I´ve tried creating a bootable usb with easyboot Balders usb v2 script"
You don't need my script in this case - use EasyBoot: 'Burn>>Write USB Disk' 
However you need to take attention to post nr; 1 HERE
Note: 'easyboot Balders usb v2 script' is very handy to use when you must use NTFS as file-system to USB device (Example: run Win7.vhd-file or run Win8 directly from USB)
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Quote: "warning appears saying several usb devices are conected to my pc"
As told, you don't need this script at this point, but in future when run script, unplug all USB drives except the one you are preparing to use (USB stick or USB hard drive)
Note1: script is very careful to not destroy data, this means script examines your computers USB inputs, and if find anything 'suspicious' it halts, to avoid any destruction of data to any USB device 
Note2: Script is on the other hand clever enough to handle several partitions to your USB device.
Script also always choose the first partition as target (generally the 'boot partition')
USB mouse is not any problem, but have USB printers/Scanners off, to make sure it isn't recognized as an USB device - which really shouldn't be any problem - but some computers do behave strange
But totally disconnect your USB hard disk(s) unit and only have your 'target' USB device plugged into motherboard
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Quote: "The ERD Commander iso file is 184 MB"
As expected  - shouldn't be any problem to run from RAM
regards balder
Edited by balder on Jun. 13 2012,08:42
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ricfil
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2012,14:03 |
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Hello Balder. Thanks once again for the help. I´ve missed the "run your scripts from the root drive" part  ... But I´ve tried this way before and it worked using the script sucessfully Anyway, will try it the correct way this time. Regarding the usb script, regardless of not needing it, I realise it needs all usb cords to be umplugged from the usb ports on the motherboard? Strange it behaves this way, since they are not being feed through the motherboard power, so that should not be a problem... Got that anyway.
Relating the bootable usb, from what I´ve read in the post you´ve mencioned it has a lot to take into consideration to being able to put a bootable usb working correctly (specially changes in commands and the likes). In the mean time, I do not have the time to fiddle with that for as long as I obviously need . Will try the iso script for ERD on his own to see how it goes.
Thanks again.
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balder
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2012,14:54 |
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@ricfil
Quote: "I do not have the time to fiddle with that for as long as I obviously need "
Yes the USB approach was only to test ERD from a different 'position' 
But you can still use 'easyboot-iso.script' to run ERD from RAM, to look for any improvements in its behaviour 
Note1: that 'winbom' thing is typical for a missing driver - most likely related to some NET-driver. Do you really need to have the NET-driver up and run, as ERD works okay without it anyway
Note2: when testing in VmWare ERD most likely can find the NET-driver, but this is not the same as when testing in 'reality'
Testing in VmWare is NOT bullet proof
regards balder
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ricfil
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2012,17:26 |
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Hello there balder. Nice tips. I´ve managed to correctly use your iso script using the right "root way" of doing things. My bad Will still try the usb "burn" idea just to see how it goes.
Regarding the testing:
Created both an ERD 2007 iso only and one with all of the other isos I´m trying to compile. On VIrtual Box, all works great-just as before. On real pcs? On my cousins pc, it still frezzes on a black screen endlessly. Tried one other machine but the DVDRW does not even boot (incompatible DVD drive maybe...) On my work machine (the RIMM modules one) the memory is not enough to accuratly test this stuff out. But...on my personal machine ERD...booted fine! Tried also MSDaRT x64 vista and 7 x64 and they also worked great strange the misbehaviour ERD has from machine to machine... (BIOS/firmware version compatibilities maybe?). Anyway, I´ll try this weekend the isos on my girlfriends laptop (1GB Ram-XP installed) to see how it goes... I do not give up that easily. I´ve already burnt my DVDRW a "few" times...
Thanks for all the help and ideas into this stuff balder. I do really apreciatte helpfull people like you.
You rock
Take care man.
P.S: Forgote to mencion. I´m afraid the "winbom" error as more to do than the lack off network drivers... As you may see on one of AhRimanSefid printscreens, when the winbom error appears, ERD can NOT detect any installed system on the HDD, (even when you´re booting to a non XP machine, it usually points you that the version you are using is not compatible with the installed/detected version)
In our case, we simply do not have any OS detected and, therefore, cannot continue using the "live environment"(continue button grayed out). I do believe the "evil"  Winbow error has more to it than network stuff. And I believe if it had those kind of problems, they would happen even on the ERD Commander cd only (as the hardware would be the culprit here, when ERD tried to interact with the "incompatible" hardware). If it was only that, as I believe you have mencioned around here, the network lack would not be an issue, as ERD tends to serve as an offline utility, rather than an antivirus scanner (which usually needs virus updates/server-network conection).
Edited by ricfil on Jun. 13 2012,18:44
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balder
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Posted on: Jun. 14 2012,01:40 |
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@ricfil
Thank you for your detailed answer including comprising testing of solutions
Quote: "I´m afraid the "winbom" error as more to do than the lack off network drivers"
Yes, unfortunately you seems to have right there
However as told, ERD-2007 is getting old, especially if you compare to MsDart or similar WinPE.
Quote: "BIOS/firmware version compatibilities maybe?"
Not a bad conclusion - most likely you are on the right track there...
Again, thank you for comprising testing - I know by experience how much time and efforts it takes
regards balder
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ricfil
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Posted on: Jun. 14 2012,20:09 |
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Hello once again. Just tried a few more things which I decided to put around here so others can(hopefully) use to try and solve their own ERD 2007 issues.
Managed to test my "easyboot" iso on another machine. Everything seems to work great. Even ERD .Tthe only thing it hapened on that machine was when booting ERD up, if I did not click quickly enough on the "skip network configuration" menu button that appears, the Winbom error appears... Only diference is when closing the error message, ERD stilll boots normally (detects the system on the HDD and all)... It shure seems like some sort of bios conflit when BIOS leads the CPU to put DVD files on RAM... relating each individual machine. Not shure about that though Still, I´m going to test the iso on my girlfriends HP just to have another way of testing it.
Also tested the burn usb option. As expected, some isos do work but others don´t (Acronis True Image, HBCD, ERD and MSDaRTs, etc), which leaves me with an unstable build to my bootable usb. I´m still not ready (low on time) to dig deep on how to properly configure and try to run a bootable usb drive using Easyboot.
Nevertheless, my DVD seems to finally been working great, and that is the most important thing at the moment.
Regarding the ERD dated software. I do understand that aspect Balder, but that System Restore option alone....hum...I keep going back to that feature on XP systems gone berserk!
Finally, would like to thank AhRimanShefid for his post (which lead me to some help) and, obviously, to balder, for your incredible work around here and your amazing availability and knowledge. I´ve already learned a few more tricks to help myself on this bootable journeys!
Thank YOU and take care.
See you around.
Edited by ricfil on Jun. 14 2012,20:13
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