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PostIcon Posted on: May 03 2013,16:06  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Hi

I'm using the latest version of ezboot. I've created a new mulitoot ISO. The ISO file is 12GB in size. I've tested this ISO using VirtualBOX and VMware and it is working great. Now I cannot burn it to a DVD since it is too big (I do not have a Bluray Writer).

So I decided to convert it to bootable USB. I tried doing it from withing EZboot. With the USB boot v2 it worked (menu did come up) but non of the kicker image based items could load. I read in this forum that there is a problem with this method and kicker images. So I tried the other xpress write method, but it is not working at all. I'm getting EZLDR is missing error, but EZLDR was copied to the USB ok...

U tried third party ISO to USB but none of them worked at all with EZBOOT..

I even tried balder usb script but after I hit play I'm getting an error message called "chicken" :-)

Could there be a size limit? Any suggestions are welcomed, especially from Maestro balder...

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PostIcon Posted on: May 03 2013,16:37 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

@EB1000

Quote: "Any suggestions are welcomed, especially from Maestro balder"

He, he 'Maestro' thanks for that one, he, he... :laugh:

With the USB boot v2 it worked (menu did come up) but non of the kicker image based items could load

There are some limits to FAT32 filesystem

Most important limit is the 4 GB limit size :O
You cannot use files larger than 4 GB when using FAT32 (NTFS is no problem)

I suggest following:

1. Move all files and folders from folder 'disk1' (except folder EZBOOT) to a temporary folder

2. Create ISO as usual in Easyboot (created ISO is now most likely heavily reduced in size)

3. Use my script 'easyboot-usb_v2.script' to get that smaller ISO created by Easyboot to USB device

4. Copy all files and folders that you moved in step.1 from temporary folder to the root of USB device

You could also test same method (step.1, step.2 and instead use EasyBoot>>'Burn' in step. 3 and finish up with step.4)

Note: above doesn't guarantee it works correctly, as some software needs 'special treatment' to work correctly from USB device - however it sure is worth to try out ???

Make sure to download my latest script-collection (delete folder 'balder' and replace with the new one from download)

Script shouldn't show error message called "chicken"
Note: make sure to extract folder 'balder' to the root (C:)
And make sure to have folder EasyBoot on the root (script is sensitive to spaces in path) :O

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PostIcon Posted on: May 03 2013,16:54 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Thanks! I will try your suggestions and report back. Are you saying your script does not include the error message "chicken" or it does include but should not show it... As for easyvoot folder, I've installed it into drive E not C. easyboot folder is in root of E as well as your balder folder. Your other scripts are working (when run for the first time it asked for easyboot folder). Is this configuration to ok? Do I need to copt easyboot folder and balder folder to system drive?

One more thing, before I use xpress write, do I need to format the usb? And should I format using Fat32 or NTFS? Also, next to EASYBOOT folder there is another "boot" folder and some boot related files used by other bootalbe images like kaspersky AV etc.. perhaps It will be better to keep all files except the ISO folder inside the reduced sized ISO (I checked, if I remove the ISO folder inside disk1 that holds all kicker iso images, the disk1 folder reduces to 3.3GB which is OK for fat32. What do you think?

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PostIcon Posted on: May 04 2013,02:22 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

@EB1000

First of all...
There is no need to format USB :;):
EasyBoot totally overwrites USB with a new partition each time you 'Burn' to USB :O

Attention! You are most likely bound to use FAT32 as most linux distros may fail from NTFS
(EasyBoot never uses NTFS anyway when 'Burn')
Further more, the 'loader' in EasyBoot (file ezldr) can only be used in FAT and FAT32
Note: my script 'easyboot-usb_v2.script' can on the other hand directly launch ISO-file created by EasyBoot from a NTFS-partition :)

Quote: "if I remove the ISO folder inside disk1 that holds all kicker iso images, the disk1 folder reduces to 3.3GB which is OK for fat32"
Well yes and no in same time. You can move folder ISO out to the root in EasyBoot (folder disk1 is the root in EasyBoot) and change every menu command to "run /iso/........."
You can move all other ISO-files out to the root using menu command "run /...."
If having some ISO in folder EZBOOT you use menu command "run ***.iso"
If I create a subfolder inside folder EZBOOT and put my files inside such subfolder, I change menu command to "run /ezboot/subfolder/..."

Attention! Size limit in this case, is only related to specific file(s) and not the size of ISO created by EasyBoot!
If you do have some file (ISO or EXE-file or picture or whatever) that is larger than 4 GB, you fail to write such file to a FAT32-partition (must use NTFS in such case which on the other hand makes it impossible to use 'ezldr')

Note: If USB device is larger than 2 GB, ISO created by EasyBoot is written (Burn) to USB using FAT32.
If using a smaller USB (2 GB or less in size) EasyBoot use FAT (FAT16)


USB harddisk units is written with FAT32

I recommend you to simply use "Write" as first option in combination with standard setting 'USB-HDD+'  (no fussing around with 'Xpress Boot etcetera)

Quote: "I've installed it into drive E not C"

Well it should still work fine - however it is recommended to run from C: (the 'real' root)
Note: make sure you do not have a label name to 'E' that have space in name (don't use a label to E: with a name like 'Local disk' as that label has a space. If you use 'Localdisk' it works okay as there is no space in such name) :O
As told, script(s) are sensitive to spaces in path and names to file(s).
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Some examples what can be done:

You can launch any WinPE-ISO-file that are based on NT6-system (MsDart60, MsDart65, MsDart70 as example) simply by using menu command:  run ***.iso  (having ISO-file(s) in folder EZBOOT.

You can run ISO created by EasyBoot - that now have these WinPE-ISO-files inside folder EZBOOT - from NTFS (use my script 'easyboot-usb_v2.script'  and point to ISO created by EasyBoot and in script set NTFS as file-system)

This means that there is no size-limits to such ISO, as we directly launch ISO created by EasyBoot and run ISO from NTFS.
Further more, those WinPE-ISO-files that now are inside ISO-file (inside folder EZBOOT) can still be launched okay
You can also (if using a USB harddisk) create a second partition with FAT32 and run ISO-files based on Linux from that partition simply by launching those 'kicker-images'.
'Kicker-images' will search maximum in 4 partitions (in this case second partition) and find ISO-file(s) to launch.

I have an example-ISO-file that works like this (download HERE):

My script 'easyboot-usv_v2.script was used to write ISO (ISO created by EasyBoot) to USB using NTFS as file-system!
A subfolder 'USBLOAD' inside folder EZBOOT holds 'kicker-images' :O
This ISO is written to a USB harddisk that has two partitions
One NTFS-partition and a second FAT32-partition
First partition holds a large VHD-file (Win7-vhd-file)
Second partition (FAT32) has a folder ISO with all kinds of WinPE-ISO-files

Note: you can extract folder EZBOOT from ISO-file and open ''.EZB-files" to get a hint how it is designed

regards balder


Edited by balder on May 04 2013,03:45

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Thanks. As for you script, no matter what I do, even after I reduced the ISO size, right after the warning of writing to the usb drive, I'm akways getting halt error with message "Chicken".. I'm using the latest scripts... What could cause this?

This is the part of your script usb-v2 that I do not understand:


[continue]

...


If,ExistDir,C:\usb_test,DirDelete,C:\usb_test
Message,"Chicken!",Error
Exit,"exit message"

Looks like a bug in the script to me.. C:\usb_test will be deleted if exists, but either way, right after that, script will always exit with chicken message...

What am I missing here? Can I delete these 2 lines from the script?

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PostIcon Posted on: May 04 2013,05:33 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

@EB1000

Well you get a question like this:

Please check that drive *: is the right target!
To continue press 'Yes'
To stop procedure press 'No'


You press of course 'Yes'
Script should then start with format procedure :cool:

Are saying script instead refuse to format your USB device ???
If so, please set UAC (User-Account-Control) to lowest level to allow script have full access to your USB device :O

In fact, no script can work correctly if UAC isn't set to lowest level while using scripts
Note: I always have my UAC at the lowest level
However if you of some reason don't like to format USB device you can in script tick:

"Force script to NOT format USB drive!"

Script then only update MBR and grub-files on USB, followed by continue and asking for some file to copy and launch from USB (ISO-file or floppy-image-file can be used) :)

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OK, I think I now understand. The halt + Chicken message should appear only if user choose No or UAC has blocked the operation...

BUT I'm on Windows 7 64 bit with UAC completely DIASABLED!! It was removed from Windows setup and all software on this PC runs with full admin rights... I can run cmd based commands w/o problems including those that make use of DISKPART for example.. So UAC is not the problem... I do have BitDefender 2013 running.. maybe is is blocking the script from directly accessing the USB drive..? I will try again after disabling  the AV..

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OK, after disabling Bitdefender the script worked.. But again, non of the kicker images can load. Getting "unexpected exiting" error...

Maybe it's time to give up usb.. rebuild a reduced size multiboot that will load from DVDrom... Too bad no plans from Ezb to release a fix for this bug...
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@EB1000

Quote: "Getting "unexpected exiting" error..."

I'm curios... :;):  Could you please give one example (ISO you are interested to launch)
And also structure of your build (where ISO is and how text-file 'menu,lst' inside 'kicker-image' looks like) :cool:

regards balder


Edited by balder on May 04 2013,14:15

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Hi

OK, I've completely rebuild the multiboot using your script's iso boot (not the kicker iso, the one the places the iso inside a subfolder in ezboot). Then I used yoy v2 usb script forcing NTFS format and now most of the items boot ok. Currently doing some more tests.

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