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Can some one Please help me with details on how to make an all in one CD that contains:
Win95 OEM , Win98SE Retail , Win ME OEM , Windows Me Upgrade

They are not self bootable. I have to use a floppy to do the booting. I have Win98SE bootdisk that allows me to boot and use fdisk and stuff when I need to Format a new disk. Then from the bootdisk I go into the CD and run setup.exe. I would like to have it simplified.

I would like to have the a All in one bootable CD which will allow me to format or Fdisk, and Partition a Drive.

How can I make the Win95 OEM , Win98SE Retail , Win ME OEM ,and Windows Me Upgrade Start the "Setup.exe" when I click on one of the options on the following Menu I want to have?

So I want to have these programs as a choice in my menu

- [1] Windows 98 SE Bootdisk [DOS]
       - Run: Fdisk - Create, Delete, & Make Active  Partitions
       - Run: Format - afterward to Make Drive Usable
- [2 ] Paragon Partition Manager v7.00.000.1057
       [Creat, resize and merge Hard-Drive disk partitions]
- [3] Windows 95 OEM
- [4] Windows 98 Second Edition
- [5] Windows Me [Millennium Edition] OEM
- [6] Windows Me [Millennium Edition] Upgrade
       [Use Win95 OEM or Win98Se for Quality Check]
- [7] Boot from Hard Disk
- [8] Reboot


Here is my current folder Structure.

disk1                      Folder contains the following subfolders
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Code Sample

ezboot
PartMngr              
Win95_OEM          
Win98SE              
WinME_OEM          
WinME_Upgrade

 


Directory of each SubFolder

ezboot
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default.ezb
ebback.bmp
eblogo.bmp
loader.bin
logo.bm1
logo.bmp
setup98.img
standard.ctb
w2ksect.bin
back.bm1
BACK.BMP
cdmenu.ezb




PartMngr
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Paragon Partition Manager v7.00.000.1057 Bootfile.bif


- [ Contents of Paragon Partition Manager v7.00.000.1057 Bootfile.bif ]
Problem when i ran this to test it is that it wont shut down when I click on General - Exit . It just freezes VMware.

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Code Sample
cp850uni.tbl
cp855uni.tbl
cp874uni.tbl
shsucdx.exe
images
nls
autoexec.bat
cfg1.cfg
config.sys
cp437uni.tbl
cp737uni.tbl
cp852uni.tbl
cp857uni.tbl
cp858uni.tbl
cp861uni.tbl
cp862uni.tbl
cp863uni.tbl
cp864uni.tbl
cp865uni.tbl
cp866uni.tbl
cp869uni.tbl
cwsdpmi.exe
dinks.dat
dinks.ini
himem64.exe
ibmbio.sys
ibmdos.sys
layout.ini
luxisr.ttf
mouse.com
mouse.dat
reboot.com
restart.bat
restart.pif
start.exe
vide-cdd.sys
command.com
cp775uni.tbl



Win95_OEM
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win95_26.cab
win95_27.cab
win95_28.cab
winsetup.bin
wowkit.exe
xmsmmgr.exe
cs3kit.exe
deltemp.com
dossetup.bin
extract.exe
FORMAT.COM
layout1.inf
layout.inf
MINI.CAB
MSINFO.INF
OEMSETUP.BIN
OEMSETUP.EXE
PRECOPY1.CAB
PRECOPY2.CAB
readme.txt
RMM.PDR
save32.com
scandisk.pif
scandisk.exe
scanprog.exe
SERIAL#.txt
SETUP25I.EXE
SETUP32.EXE
setup.exe
setup.txt
smartdrv.exe
SUHELPER.BIN
SWINST4.EXE
wb16off.exe
win95_02.cab
win95_03.cab
win95_04.cab
win95_05.cab
win95_06.cab
win95_07.cab
win95_08.cab
win95_09.cab
win95_10.cab
win95_11.cab
win95_12.cab
win95_13.cab
win95_14.cab
win95_15.cab
win95_16.cab
win95_17.cab
win95_18.cab
win95_19.cab
win95_20.cab
win95_21.cab
win95_22.cab
win95_23.cab
win95_24.cab
win95_25.cab


         
Win98SE
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Code Sample

WIN98_74.CAB
WIN98_OL.CAB
xmsmmgr.exe
ols
tour
BASE4.CAB
BASE5.CAB
BASE6.CAB
CATALOG3.CAB
chl99.cab
deltemp.com
dossetup.bin
DRIVER11.CAB
DRIVER12.CAB
DRIVER13.CAB
DRIVER14.CAB
DRIVER15.CAB
DRIVER16.CAB
DRIVER17.CAB
DRIVER18.CAB
DRIVER19.CAB
DRIVER20.CAB
extract.exe
FORMAT.COM
intl.txt
mini.cab
NET7.CAB
NET8.CAB
NET9.CAB
NET10.CAB
OEMSETUP.BIN
OEMSETUP.EXE
PRECOPY1.CAB
PRECOPY2.CAB
save32.com
scandisk.pif
scandisk.exe
scanprog.exe
scanreg.exe
SERIAL#.txt
setup0.wav
setup1.wav
setup2.wav
setup.exe
setup.txt
smartdrv.exe
suback.bin
sucatreg.exe
suhelper.bin
w98setup.bin
wb16off.exe
WIN98_21.CAB
WIN98_22.CAB
WIN98_23.CAB
WIN98_24.CAB
WIN98_25.CAB
WIN98_26.CAB
WIN98_27.CAB
WIN98_28.CAB
WIN98_29.CAB
WIN98_30.CAB
WIN98_31.CAB
WIN98_32.CAB
WIN98_33.CAB
WIN98_34.CAB
WIN98_35.CAB
WIN98_36.CAB
WIN98_37.CAB
WIN98_38.CAB
WIN98_39.CAB
WIN98_40.CAB
WIN98_41.CAB
WIN98_42.CAB
WIN98_43.CAB
WIN98_44.CAB
WIN98_45.CAB
WIN98_46.CAB
WIN98_47.CAB
WIN98_48.CAB
WIN98_49.CAB
WIN98_50.CAB
WIN98_51.CAB
WIN98_52.CAB
WIN98_53.CAB
WIN98_54.CAB
WIN98_55.CAB
WIN98_56.CAB
WIN98_57.CAB
WIN98_58.CAB
WIN98_59.CAB
WIN98_60.CAB
WIN98_61.CAB
WIN98_62.CAB
WIN98_63.CAB
WIN98_64.CAB
WIN98_65.CAB
WIN98_66.CAB
WIN98_67.CAB
WIN98_68.CAB
WIN98_69.CAB
WIN98_70.CAB
WIN98_71.CAB
WIN98_72.CAB
WIN98_73.CAB
               

WinME_OEM          
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Code Sample

xmsmmgr.exe
ols
BASE2.CAB
CATALOG.CAB
cleanhd.txt
deltemp.com
dossetup.bin
DRIVER5.CAB
DRIVER6.CAB
DRIVER7.CAB
extract.exe
format.com
intl.txt
mini.cab
msbatch.inf
NET3.CAB
NET4.CAB
oemsetup.bin
oemsetup.exe
PRECOPY1.CAB
save32.com
scandisk.pif
scandisk.exe
scanprog.exe
scanreg.exe
setup0.wav
setup.exe
setup.txt
smartdrv.exe
suback16.bin
suback.bin
suhelper.bin
w9xsetup.bin
wb16off.exe
win640.bin
win800.bin
win1024.bin
WIN_8.CAB
WIN_9.CAB
WIN_10.CAB
WIN_11.CAB
WIN_12.CAB
WIN_13.CAB
WIN_14.CAB
WIN_15.CAB
WIN_16.CAB
WIN_17.CAB
WIN_18.CAB
WIN_19.CAB
WIN_20.CAB
WIN_21.CAB
WIN_22.CAB
WIN_OL.CAB
winme.wmv


WinME_Upgrade
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Code Sample

WIN_OL.CAB
winme.wmv
xmsmmgr.exe
ols
BASE2.CAB
CATALOG.CAB
cleanhd.txt
deltemp.com
dossetup.bin
DRIVER5.CAB
DRIVER6.CAB
DRIVER7.CAB
extract.exe
intl.txt
mini.cab
NET3.CAB
NET4.CAB
PRECOPY1.CAB
save32.com
scandisk.pif
scandisk.exe
scanprog.exe
scanreg.exe
setup0.wav
setup.exe
setup.txt
smartdrv.exe
suback16.bin
suback.bin
suhelper.bin
w9xsetup.bin
wb16off.exe
win640.bin
win800.bin
win1024.bin
WIN_8.CAB
WIN_9.CAB
WIN_10.CAB
WIN_11.CAB
WIN_12.CAB
WIN_13.CAB
WIN_14.CAB
WIN_15.CAB
WIN_16.CAB
WIN_17.CAB
WIN_18.CAB
WIN_19.CAB
WIN_20.CAB
WIN_21.CAB
WIN_22.CAB



Thank you for taking the time to read this and also Thanks for any Help you can give me. The more detail the better.
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To deity

He, he perhaps not perfect according to this: ” The more detail the better”…
Seems to me that you very well “now what you are doing”, so perhaps I don’t need to make it so detailed – hope you don’t mind?

Read this topic: http://forum.ezbsystems.net/cgi-bin....;t=1083

YOU ONLY NEED TO CHANGE PATH IN AUTOEXEC.BAT AND CREATE DIFFERENT IMAGES.
Use >EasyBoot > Tools > ”Make floppy image” to create different bootable image files.

ATTENTION: Reduce length in folders and names to maximum eight letters. Not “WINME_OEM” use “WINMEOEM” and the same to every folder – reduce length on names to maximum eight letters or less. Do the same to names on images used in EasyBoot.
Example: To start setup of “WINME_OEM” name this image to “WINMEOEM.img” not “WINME_OEM.img” - to many letters. It’s possible to overcome this but then you may experience some other problems – so please, reduce length.

Examples on different Autoexec.bat down below here (copy text if you like).
Note: You do not need to make any changes in config.sys if using downloaded “bootmec”

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@echo off

rem This starts win98SE setup

MSCDEX.EXE  /D:tomato /L:X
PATH=a:\;a:\dos;x:\win98SE
setup.exe

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@echo off

rem This starts win95OEM  setup

MSCDEX.EXE  /D:tomato /L:X
rem Note: I have reduced length  on name from “WIN95_OEM” to “WIN95OEM”
PATH=a:\;a:\dos;x:\WIN95OEM
setup.exe

---------------

@echo off

rem This starts fdisk

fdisk

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Use >EasyBoot > Tools > ”Make floppy image” to create this different bootable image files.
Note: in “Output file name” change name from “boot.img” to “win98SE.img” and/or “win95OEM.img” (no quotes) and same to the rest of different images. Note: eight letters or less on names!
Use command in EasyBoot as usual: run win98SE.img  and/or  run win95OEM.img  and more choices in your menu, starting up different images.

About format in DOS, I suggest you use “standard image” (Windows 98 SE Bootdisk) and from A:\> manually use keyboard (“format C:”). It’s possible to set command-switch and automatically run “quick-format” from image at ones, but perhaps a little bit dangerous. I suggest that you do it “manually” using keyboard.
When creating ISO using EasyBoot. Only activate “Optimize” and nothing more!

Finally, paragon: Please show me the contents of autoexec.bat in paragon-image
This is my autoexec.bat in paragon:
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@echo off
echo Welcome to PTS-DOS

SHSUCDX /D:CD001

SET PATH=a:\

if exist restart.log set OPTIONS=/restart
mouse.com
start.exe %OPTIONS%
if "%OPTIONS%"=="/restart" del restart.log

shutdown /R

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I forgot about Win95. If it doesn’t run using ”standard procedure”, read this: http://forum.ezbsystems.net/cgi-bin....;t=1036

It depends on what version you are using.

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Thanks for the help

It will take some time to read and make it work.  
Will take your advice on making the changes to the folder names
Will read the other thread

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I forgot about Win95. If it doesn’t run using ”standard procedure”, read this: http://forum.ezbsystems.net/cgi-bin....;t=1036

It depends on what version you are using.

eureka


I went to check the version where I have it installed.
It says its " Windows 95 v4.00.950 B "

any idea to which autoexec.bat to use with this version of Win95


Here is my Paragon "autoexec" info
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@echo off
echo Welcome to PTS-DOS

SHSUCDX /D:CD001

SET PATH=a:\

if exist restart.log set OPTIONS=/restart
mouse.com
start.exe %OPTIONS%
if "%OPTIONS%"=="/restart" del restart.log

I added the last line in your autoexec.bat to see if that did the trick but it didnt.


Can I see Whats in you Paragon config.sys file?


Here is whats in my Paragon config.sys
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files=20
buffers=10
stacks=0,0
break=on
lastdrive=z
switches=/F
DEVICE=himem64.exe
dos=low
device=vide-cdd.sys /D:CD001
shell=command.com /E:256 /P
break = ON



Some Questions:

Are .*bif and *.IMA the same thing?

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Note: You do not need to make any changes in config.sys if using downloaded “bootmec”

Where is this bootmec. I dont see it.


Can you explain what it is doing in this lines. Just so I can understand whats going on.
Code Sample

@echo off

rem This starts win98SE setup          <- Is this just telling you whats going to happen, A comment right

MSCDEX.EXE  /D:tomato /L:X           <- Dont understand whats going on here
PATH=a:\;a:\dos;x:\win98SE            <- Dont understand whats going on here
setup.exe                                      <- I understand this Part


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MSCDEX.EXE  /D:tomato /L:X
rem Note: I have reduced length  on name from “WIN95_OEM” to “WIN95OEM”        <- understood :)
PATH=a:\;a:\dos;x:\WIN95OEM                                                                       <- Dont understand
setup.exe                                                                                                    <- understood






One other question which is bugging me.
When you say use the command under Easyboot  "run WINMEOEM.ima"
What is the default starting point when we use the "run WINMEOEM.ima" command in Easyboot.
Is it Disk1.

Does this mean when I type "run WINMEOEM.ima".
Is it saying go into Disk1\WINMEOEM\WINMEOEM.ima  <- Can I put the WINMEOEM.ima in the same folder as WINMEOEM\
If so how do I tell EasyBoot Where "WINMEOEM.ima" is

I installed EasyBoot in C:\EasyBoot

I copied both folders "disk1\ezboot"
to my "D:\MultibootableOS's Win95-98SE-ME\disk1\ezboot"

Im using the default.ezb as template

So these is goig to be the new Dir Structure

D:\MultibootableOS's Win95-98SE-ME\disk1\

What Run command do I use in Easyboot?

DOS7_1_0
  - DOS7_1_0.ima

ezboot
- all the Files that where there originally in there

Win95OEM
- WINMEOEM.ima
- all the Windows Install Files mentioned on first post

Win98SE
- WIN98SE.ima
- all the Windows Install Files mentioned on first post

WINMEOEM
- WINMEOEM.ima
- all the Windows Install Files mentioned on first post

WINMEUPG
- WINMEUPG.ima
- all the Windows Install Files mentioned on first post

PartMngr
- PartMngr.ima     <- Thats why I asked if the .*bif and *.IMA the same thing?
- PartMngr.bif     <-  because these two files are the same size [ 1,440 KB]


D:\MultibootableOS's Win95-98SE-ME\disk1\ezboot  <- Dose anything go in here other then what was in there originaly


If I have a couple of IMA DOS utility images where can I Put them so they run properly?
I wanted them to be in their own subfolder under the Disk1 Directory.
This is one of the Subfolder under Disk1
     So its like this
D:\MultibootableOS's Win95-98SE-ME\disk1\DOS7_1_1\DOS7_1_0.ima

What command do i write when I try to create the "run  DOS7_1_0.ima"
I dont think that will work because there is a subdirectory  of DOS7_1_0  in Disk1 before the DOS7_1_1.ima


This DOS7_1_0.ima bootfloppy has USB, CDROM recognition and Mouse Support
Is theres a way to boot this DOS7_1_0.ima file with the options.

1  Go to DOS Prompt  
2. Run Checkdisk
3. Run Fdisk

Thank you!
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To deity

Sorry, but I think you have mixed things up here and there.
Please read help in EasyBoot to get the basic stuff!

I don’t think it’s the right time to go any further at this point. Only some answers:

@echo off

rem This starts win98SE setup          <- Is this just telling you whats going to happen, A comment right>> YES, it’s okay to delete this line!

MSCDEX.EXE  /D:tomato /L:X           <- Dont understand whats going on here >> Read this topic one more time: http://forum.ezbsystems.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=1083 and please in the same time use second link in topic to get more information.

PATH=a:\;a:\dos;x:\win98SE            <- Dont understand whats going on here >> This is a very simple dos-command. It forces path in dos to point to folder win98SE  (It’s really very basic stuff…)
setup.exe                                      <- I understand this Part

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“What is the default starting point when we use the "run WINMEOEM.ima" command in Easyboot.
Is it Disk1”. NO!!! IT’S EASYBOOT\DISk1\EZBOOT  Please read help in EasyBoot!

“Can I put the WINMEOEM.ima in the same folder as WINMEOEM” NO!!!!! Please read help in EasyBoot!

“If I have a couple of IMA DOS utility images where can I Put them so they run properly?” Yes probably, but we need to straight some things out before we go any further. Please, start with reading help in EasyBoot!

Anyway, about paragon:
In paragon autoexec.bat – please test with inserting this text in the very end: “reboot” (no quotes!)
Autoexec.bat in paragon should now look like this:
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@echo off
echo Welcome to PTS-DOS

SHSUCDX /D:CD001

SET PATH=a:\

if exist restart.log set OPTIONS=/restart
mouse.com
start.exe %OPTIONS%
if "%OPTIONS%"=="/restart" del restart.log
reboot

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Just curios…
This is importing for me: Did you start paragon from EasyBoot or did you use floppy itself?

See you tomorrow (it’s bedtime, my eyes are falling down…)

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Please read help in EasyBoot to get the basic stuff!

I did read the Manual first to get an idea, but its a little confusing. Thats one reason im asking questions. To fill in those holes.


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copy all boot image file needed to "C:\EasyBoot\disk1\ezboot", such as setup98.img, wxpsect.bin, to reduce additional file form CD root directory.  

So do boot files have to be with *.img extension and not IMA or PIF.
So they also have to be in the ezboot directory so thats why when you write run setup98.img its default starting to run is in the folder Ezboot and from when it runs the image file, it runs the autoexec.bat file which proceeds to go to the root disk1 folder to go into for example the Win98 folder to run setup.exe to begin the installation .


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MSCDEX.EXE  /D:tomato /L:X           <- Dont understand whats going on here >> Read this topic one more time:


Your refering to this
Code Sample
Quote: ” what does mscdex.exe /D:tomato /L:X mean and is it really supposed to be tomato”
“tomato” is just a “name substitute”. You may call it “potatoes” or “Pluto” or whatever. Note: Same name must be in “name substitute” in config.sys file. No need to change this.


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“What is the default starting point when we use the "run WINMEOEM.ima" command in Easyboot.
Is it Disk1”. NO!!! IT’S EASYBOOT\DISk1\EZBOOT  Please read help in EasyBoot!

Understood. After reading the Help it was not made very clear. Thats why I asked.

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PATH=a:\;a:\dos;x:\win98SE            <- Dont understand whats going on here >> This is a very simple dos-command. It forces path in dos to point to folder win98SE  (It’s really very basic stuff…)


PATH=                                                  <-What does PATH do, Whats its purpose  
a:\                                                    <- Im thinking it goes into A drive
;                                                      <-  From reading another Thread I think is this a separator
                                                             between multiple commands

a:\dos                                                <- Whats it doing here  


x:\win98SE                                         <-  Where did we get the x:


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“Can I put the WINMEOEM.ima in the same folder as WINMEOEM” NO!!!!! Please read help in EasyBoot!

So it has to go into the EZBOOT folder.

After finishing the layout. I was thinking of moving all files back to C drive EASYBOOT\DISk1\EZBOOT  
but is that mandatory.
Or can i just create the D:\MultibootableOS's Win95-98SE-ME\EASYBOOT\DISk1\EZBOOT
I have the original ezboot files in the Ezboot folder. For example the default.ezb and the rest of the files Im working on to make the interface. Would that not work. Since Im still using the same directory structure.

 

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“If I have a couple of IMA DOS utility images where can I Put them so they run properly?” Yes probably, but we need to straight some things out before we go any further. Please, start with reading help in EasyBoot!

I read the manual! Thats what confused me. I think im still confused.



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Just curios…
This is importing for me: Did you start paragon from EasyBoot or did you use floppy itself?


No im testing it using the Floppy itself. I havent tried making an ISO yet. Im working on the Layout and the Background Image and the text aswell.

The reboot at the end of the Paragon autoexec.bat at the end of the text file did the job. Very cool! :)



Forgot that  you can use the tools to transform an IMA image to a  *.img file.

All it creates is an empty Image when I use the IMA source to seed Image.
I created an empty 1440 and a 2280 img file but I cant Put any files into it. Im usig Winimage to open the img file. And its empty. Even though the Seed is full of files.

Thanks for your help!

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To deity

I do agree with you that help in EasyBoot is far from any ”masterpiece”, it has its limits.
Quote: “I think im still confused”. You are not alone…. When I started using EasyBoot I was more than confused. I ended up “pulling out my hair” – Well I’m not bold yet, but I’m working on it….

Anyway… *.bif is what extension that’s being used in programs like UltraIso. *.bif-file with size 1,44 Mb (floppy-size) is basically the same as *ima or *.img.

This means that images with “floppy-size” (created from “normal” floppy-size) could have extension: *.bif, *.ima and *.img they are al used in the same way.

Quote: “All it creates is an empty Image when I use the IMA source to seed Image.
I created an empty 1440 and a 2280 img file but I cant Put any files into it. I’m using Winimage to open the img file. And its empty. Even though the Seed is full of files.”

You only use “seed image” to get bootsector. Then use winimage or UltraIso to inject files. Read this topic: http://forum.ezbsystems.net/cgi-bin....1;t=473

Quote: “So they also have to be in the ezboot directory so thats why when you write run setup98.img its default starting to run is in the folder Ezboot and from when it runs the image file, it runs the autoexec.bat file which proceeds to go to the root disk1 folder to go into for example the Win98 folder to run setup.exe to begin the installation .” Correct!

Quote: “x:\win98SE  <-  Where did we get the x:”  >> From the line above: MSCDEX.EXE  /D:tomato /L:X
Note: “tomato” is just a funny nickname. In config.sys this line is set to same: “DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:tomato”  
You can name it “pluto”, “potatoes”, “lassie” or “europe” or whatever. But same “nickname” must be set in Autoexec.bat.

Syntax for path:
PATH;
PATH [d:]path[;][d:]path[...]
Purpose: Sets or displays directories that will be searched for programs not in the current directory. PATH tells DOS which directories should be searched for external commands after DOS searches your working directory. DOS searches the paths in the order specified in the PATH command. Example in autoexec.bat: PATH=a:\;a:\dos;x:\WIN95OEM
Dos “jumps” to directory WIN95OEM in unit X:\  
Unit X (first CD/VDV-reader-unit) is forced to have letter   X   bye this dos-command: “MSCDEX.EXE  /D:tomato /L:X”  It’s possible to fix this using other dos-commands or using a small dos-program like “findCD”.
Note: I like to make things straight on combined with a way that I now is 100% waterproof.

However, I think you need to learn more about DOS. This isn’t the right forum to discuss this.

You will run in to a lot of different dos-commands later on. Take a look in autoexec.bat in paragon and notice that path isn’t changed because paragon is not calling on any different harddisk/CD/DVD-unit, it uses only path to floppy (SET PATH=a:\). EasyBoot runs floppy-images in “dos emulated mode”. This means that it is easy to use images in EasyBoot.
Nice that you solved your problems with paragon floppy with that command I suggested.
Start “EasyBoot >>Tools >>Make Floppy Image”  and make a new image using paragon-floppy.
Note that deafault location is EasyBoot\disk1\ezboot for this new image.
Then try to make a menu-start in EasyBoot for this new image (and finally create ISO) and see if you can make it run? Note: default name when creating image in “EasyBoot >>Tools >>Make Floppy Image”  is “boot.img” change it to paragon.img and set command in menu to: run paragon.img

Quote: “I have the original ezboot files in the Ezboot folder. For example the default.ezb and the rest of the files Im working on to make the interface. Would that not work. Since Im still using the same directory structure.”
What’s the point with moving stuff around? You need to change path on a lot of stuff inside EasyBoot. I suggest you use original installation path ([C:]).

I have noticed that you made some progress, and I think it’s only a matter of time to you get things right, and finally create your first ISO using EasyBoot.

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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 13 2005,17:25 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I have finished the a beta of my layout for the CD im creating.
I used fireworks to create the layout and save it into a 256 color BMP 8 File. I was getting error meassage when trying to use it. So, I went to search for more info at this forum and found a suggestion where you can go into the Easyboot Options - Configuration - ScreenMode - 256 Color [8bit] and then tryied using the one I made and it worked. The background worked.

It seems Easyboot uses only the things that are contained within the disk1 folder when creating an ISO. I opened the ISO it created and it contained the 4 folders I had in the disk1 Folder for testing.

These are all floppies

Dell              <- Having Problems with this one working
                     It has a Ghost image for backing up my drive
                     It launches the DOS options Menu, but when
                     I click one the options it says restore ....
                     It launches but it can reports
"CDR103: CDROM not High Sierra or ISO-9660 format reading drive T Abort, Retry, Fail?  
                     But When I use test the ISO again, And i select one of the options it boots up with ghost just fine.

DOS7_1_0            <- Seems to lauch using the Menu created

ezboot

PartMngr              <- Seems to lauch using the Menu created


I have also messed with layou using the Eazyboot. Its not so easy to get the blending to match. I have to experiment some more to try to get the right effect.


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Anyway… *.bif is what extension that’s being used in programs like UltraIso. *.bif-file with size 1,44 Mb (floppy-size) is basically the same as *ima or *.img.

You only use “seed image” to get bootsector. Then use winimage or UltraIso to inject files. Read this topic: http://forum.ezbsystems.net/cgi-bin....1;t=473

Ok! Now I get What it is for.

So does that mean that when I have the bootsector seeded into the new img, then I can  extract the IMA contents and inject them back to the new img that has the IMA bootsector. RIght!

Tested my theory and it works.

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Syntax for path:

Thanks for the explanation. It helps in better understanding whats going on. That way, I can thinker with it if I need to.

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However, I think you need to learn more about DOS. This isn’t the right forum to discuss this.
You know any good forums.


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Start “EasyBoot >>Tools >>Make Floppy Image”  and make a new image using paragon-floppy.
Note that deafault location is EasyBoot\disk1\ezboot for this new image.
Then try to make a menu-start in EasyBoot for this new image (and finally create ISO) and see if you can make it run? Note: default name when creating image in “EasyBoot >>Tools >>Make Floppy Image”  is “boot.img” change it to paragon.img and set command in menu to: run paragon.img  


These two are working if I keep them in the ezyboot folder using the run command
DOS7_1_0.img                  1,440 KB
PartMngr.img                    2,880 KB

Im having problems with this one
DELL_NRU.img                   2,880 KB

The only thing visible when you use UltraISO to open the ISO is the  ghost.exe file which is 1,366 KB in size

- So what i did was Open the ISO with UltraISO.
- Saved the *.bif boot file. I contains the autoexec.bat file and other files. In total it saves into a 1,440 KB bif file.
- I opened the bif file in UltraISO and saved it into a IMA file.
- I used Easyboot to create a 2,880 KB boodisk img using the seed from the IMA file.
- I tried two things after that
- 1. I opened the 2,880 KB IMG file in Winimage and inserted the ghost.exe into it. Since it has the boot info from when I seeded into it. I should have booted ok. But it didnt. I get the message:
Invalid sytem disk
Replace the disk and then press any key
If I press any key, It reboots the system. Then im back in the easy boot menu i created.
- 2. I also opened the IMA file that was the bif bootfile before and extracted its contents out and then injected them to the 2,880 KB IMG file with the Ghost.exe file. This time it recognize the cdroms and booted into the selection options menu. But once I select a menu option it seems to launch just fine but then get the error message I mentioned above:

"CDR103: CDROM not High Sierra or ISO-9660 format reading drive T Abort, Retry, Fail?  
                     But When I use test the ISO again, And i select one of the options it boots up with ghost just fine.


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I have noticed that you made some progress, and I think it’s only a matter of time to you get things right, and finally create your first ISO using EasyBoot.
Yes! I have. With some help in the beginning, so far so good. I Have to mess with things a bit more to get the hang of it.

Have to work on the blending of the selectable options. they look blury.

Ill be back later I have to go try to fix a friends computer. He has some viruses and trojans. From the symptons his reporting.  

Thanks for all you help!

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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 14 2005,04:17 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

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Quote: ”So does that mean that when I have the bootsector seeded into the new img, then I can extract the IMA contents and inject them back to the new img that has the IMA bootsector. RIght!” Correct!

Quote: ” Im having problems with this one
DELL_NRU.img                   2,880 KB
The only thing visible when you use UltraISO to open the ISO is the ghost.exe file which is 1,366 KB in size”

??? “use UltraISO to open the ISO”??? What I can figure out here is that this is a ISO-file containing ghost in the root of ISO-file and that you then saved bootrecord as *.bif Correct? If this is the case, you have to copy ghost.exe to the root (EasyBoot\disk1) and then use saved *.bif as usual in EasyBoot: “run *.bif”. Because path to ghost.exe in Autoexec.bat in *.bif is probably pointing to the root of CD/DVD-unit.

About Ghost:
If still having problem to start Ghost, please use this guide:
Download bootfile: “Windows Me Custom, No Ramdrive” from here: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

Use right mouse button on “bootmec.exe” and choose to “Extract to bootmec\” (you need zip-program of some kind installed. I prefer WinRAR). You now have a new folder named “bootmec”. Open folder and locate “bootmec-img”. We are going to edit autoexec.bat in this one. Use WinImage (or UltraIso) and extract Autoexec.bat to some temporary folder (use folder bootmec to make it easy). Open autoexec and put in this text (delete other text):

@echo off

MSCDEX.EXE  /D:tomato /L:X
PATH=a:\;a:\dos;x:\

ctmouse.exe
ghost
reboot


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Save autoexec.bat back to bootmec.img

Note: To easy up next step, I suggest you create several temporary folders, because we need to extract and inject stuff from images and compressed files from here and there.

Start EasyBoot>>Tools>>Create new Image  >> set Image size to: 2880 >> and use bootmec.img as “Seed Image” >>when saving this new image, rename file from “2880.img” to “ghost.img” (no quotes). Make sure you save image to EasyBoot\disk1\ezboot

Now open this “oversized” ghost.img and inject ghost.exe followed bye injecting every file from bootmec.img as well. End it up with injecting “reboot.com” from EasyBoot\ resource.
Finally, we need mouse support. Download zip-file from here: http://cutemouse.sourceforge.net/program/ctm20a4.zip
Extract “ctmouse.exe” from zip-file and inject it to “ghost.img”.

As I pointed out in the beginning – use temporary folders to make it easier to separate files and images.

You should now have a new Image in EasyBoot\disk1\ezboot named ghost.img with size 2880.
Use command in EasyBoot as usual: “run ghost.img” (no quotes).
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Some notes…
Quote: “So what i did was Open the ISO with UltraISO.
- Saved the .bif boot file. I contains the autoexec.bat file and other files. In total it saves into a 1,440 KB bif file.
- I opened the bif file in UltraISO and saved it into a IMA file.”

No need to rework *.bif.
You can use this one (*.bif) as it is in EasyBoot (run *.bif). Note: use extension “bif” as it is!

Quote: ” >>…go into the Easyboot Options - Configuration - ScreenMode - 256 Color [8bit] and then tryied using the one I made and it worked. The background worked”
Yes you have to set screen mode (colours and size) to the same as your choice of background picture, I always use 256 colours. Have never experied any troubles using those colours – but you never now…
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Links on your request:
http://www.computerhope.com/msdos.htm
http://www.freedos.org/
http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/
http://www.pc-tools.net/dos/dosutils/
A1.zip   (A1 Dos Utilities Shareware).

Regards eureka

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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 14 2005,08:28 Skip to the previous post in this topic.  Ignore posts   QUOTE

To deity

Sorry, forgot to insert link according to A1-dosutilities, here it is:
http://www.ers.kestar.com.au/a1.zip

eureka

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