Forum: EasyBoot
Topic: Offline NT Password & Registry Editor
started by: EvilBetty

Posted by EvilBetty on Apr. 16 2007,16:43
I used to load this utility to my multi-boot CD's when it was in floppy form, but now they only offer it in CD form.  Is there a "best practice" for adding this CD to my multi-boot CD?

Offline NT Password & Registry Editor
< http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html >

Thanks!

Posted by jkapellen on Apr. 16 2007,16:46
I'm currently (at this minute) working on this exact project, I'll post if I get anywhere with it.
Posted by tualatin on Apr. 17 2007,22:28
So, who fixed this problem? Or it's uncorrectable problem?
Posted by EvilBetty on May 01 2007,11:33
jkapellen:  Get anywhere with this?  Or has anyone else progressed with this?
Posted by tlecso on Jul. 15 2007,09:47
Yes, i made it!

How it works:

Here is the default directory structure of EasyBoot:
C:\EasyBoot\disk1\ezboot

1st step: Download the cd image file here: null< Offline NT PW & Reg Editor >

2nd step: Extract the iso file from the archive to the "ezboot" directory.

3rd step: Mount the cd image into daemon tool and copy all files from the root directory to "disk1" directory.

4th step: Use this command in the command menu: "bcdw \ezboot\cd070409.iso" (w/o quotes)

5th step: Save your project, make iso file and use it :)

I know, this workaround not too nice, but works :D

Posted by billonious on Aug. 02 2007,17:38
i think the most handy way is to use floppy images instead of cd images because there are duplicated files in the root directory from other linux distirbutions (ex: isolinux.cfg ...).  

so, I was to make a 2.8' floppy image including :

a) bootdisk image     b) scsi drivers

I found that the author of this software mentions in the beginning of his page :

QUOTE
If you use the floppy, and you need the SCSI-drivers set, either prepare a floppy with the scsi-drivers .zip file unzipped (in \scsi), or put a selection of the drivers you need in the \scsi folder on the main floppy, there should be enough space for maybe a couple of drivers. In the latter case you don't need to carry around and swap floppies.



I had to inject the unzipped "scsi" folder with drivers into the bootimage. This was successful .

I booted the floppy image in msVirtualPC, but the application can't find the folder named "scsi" and can't load scsi drivers manually or auto.

Posted by billonious on Sep. 21 2007,18:37
solved!

- get the cd version.
- extract all files in a folder named "offline" placed in "easyboot/disk1"
- in easyboot menu run this  command:
CODE
bcdw /offline/isolinux.bin /offline/vmlinuz initrd=/offline/initrd.cgz,/offline/scsi.cgz append rw vga=1 init=/linuxrc


- just be sure that bcdw.bin rests inside "ezboot" folder, isolinux.bin & vmlinuz & initrd.cgz & scsi.cgz rest inside the "offline" folder

* this post should be added in another one but i can't edit a previous post of mine in order to improve it.

Posted by donorlow on Nov. 10 2007,08:07
I am trying to create a Multiboot Cd with offline NT, and Slax.  I extracted to the bif from slax and that boots up no problem.
I then dl'ed the cd version of offline NT, extracted to a new folder I called offline whinch is in the disk1 folder and then added to my run line.

bcdw /offline/isolinux.bin /offline/vmlinuz initrd=/offline/initrd.cgz,/offline/scsi.cgz append rw vga=1 init=/linuxrc

The bcdw.bin rests inside "ezboot" folder, isolinux.bin & vmlinuz & initrd.cgz & scsi.cgz rest inside the "offline" folder.  

This is not working for me, when I select to boot my NT Offline, it will boot Slax.  The funny thing is that it boots up my slax with some different params.  It is like it is usind the params I have set for Offline NT in the run line.

If I select my Slax boot up, It will boot my Slax(OphCrack) just fine.  Please give me some insight.

Posted by billonious on Nov. 10 2007,16:00
offline nt has a very bad behavior such as most of the linux distros, because of isolinux.bin. It looks automatically for "boot" folders.Rename the boot folder of slax, and make the respective changes , so as to prevent offline nt from loading slax' boot files.

The respective changes are in *.bif  {search for default./boot/isolinux.isolinux.cfg} &  in isolinux.cfg

It still may show slax' boot logo, but that's only. It loads offline nt stuff.

do it and let me know if it works.

Posted by donorlow on Nov. 10 2007,19:42
Thank You so much.  I got it working on the first try, after changing the isolinux.cfg file, the bif file, an of course the boot folder name.  It boots up just like I wanted it to.  I am officially done making coasters.  Thanks...
Posted by billonious on Nov. 11 2007,05:42
;-)

another satisfied customer, lol

Posted by jycnet on Jan. 21 2009,01:31
Hi

I very like this tool of Offline NT Password & Registry Editor

I want make a large bd080526.bin (DOS floppy)  and use loadlin.exe of dos to load initrd.cgz

example
****************************************************
autoexec.bat
@echo off
set path=a:\
a:\
loadlin.exe  vmlinuz initrd=initrd.cgz
***********************************************

but i don't know join scsi drivers(drivers1-080526.zip,drivers2-080526.zip ) into  initrd.cgz of

d080526.bin

can you help me?

join scsi drivers >>  initrd.cgz

very very thanks for you!

Happy new year!

Posted by balder on Jan. 22 2009,14:20
@jycnet

Well, as nobody else seems to help you I will give it a try. As it is a pain :(  to get it working using this approach “DOS floppy and use loadlin.exe of dos to load initrd.cgz”, I suggest you use grub loader with a “kickstarter-Image” :cool:  
Do as following to see if it works:

1. Create a new folder with name iso  in EasyBoot\disk1
2. Download full ISO (cd080802.zip ) of “Offline NT Password & Registry Editor” from < here >
3. Extract downloaded ISO to EasyBoot\disk1\iso and rename ISO to:  Password.iso  
4. Download  compressed floppy image (Password.img.gz) with grub from < here >
5. Put Password.img.gz in folder ezboot as usual. Use it as it is, do not extract image!
6. In EasyBoot menu set command:  memdisk Password.img.gz
7. Attention! When creating ISO check “Allow lower case”

Test and see if you can manage it to work :)

balder

Posted by ScottProdigy on Feb. 25 2009,16:46
I signed up just to comment on this amazing technique.

I've been pulling my hair out for 2 days trying to get the new Memtest86 3.5 to work with Easyboot, and this post saved the day!

Being a bit more tech savvy, I decided to extract the .ima file from your post above and then used WinImage to extract the menu.lst file. I was able to use Notepad++ to text edit all references of Password.iso, as shown below:

timeout 0

find --set-root --ignore-floppies /iso/Password.iso
map --mem /iso/Password.iso (hd32)
map --hook
root (hd32)
chainloader (hd32)

After replacing it with my own entry (ex. Memtest.iso) I saved the file and injected it into the .ima file (of course saving it as a different name, ie. Memtest.ima.)

I used WinRar with .zip compression and named the file Memtest.img.gz and placed it into my ezboot folder. I then copied my Memtest.iso file into the iso folder, used the command "memdisk Memtest.img.gz" created my new Easyboot disk, and it tested successfully in VirtualPC!

Basically, follow the same instructions above, but be sure you replace "Password" in:
* The .iso file
* The menu.lst file, found in the .ima image file within the compressed .gz archive
* The .img.gz archive
* The Easyboot command memdisk XXXX.img.gz

Amazing and so much easier than every other isolinux work around to date. Thanks a million!

Posted by balder on Feb. 26 2009,08:37
@ScottProdigy

Quote1: I've been pulling my hair out (same here :laugh: )
Quote2: Amazing and so much easier than every other isolinux work around to date. Thanks a million!

In some cases, isolinux is a pain in the *** :angry: to use. I then realised that I instead can use my kind of kickstarter-images as a work around

@ScottProdigy Thanks for nice feedback :D

balder

Posted by ScottProdigy on Feb. 26 2009,08:45
It seems to work with everything but Partition management software, though I'm only testing in a virtual machine environment at the moment. I've tried Parted Magic, GParted and Part Logic, and each one locks up or fails to load (they rely on isolinux as well.) Any suggestions?
Posted by balder on Feb. 26 2009,14:01
@ScottProdigy

About parted magic
There are two ways to start parted magic.
Note: There are some major differences between version 3.4 and 3.6 and 3.7
I recommend downloading latest version (3.7).

Option 1 (easiest one):
Download latest release (Parted Magic 3.7 ) from here:
< http://sourceforge.net/project....=663828 >
Note: Be sure to download:  pmagic-3.7.iso.zip (do not download grub4dos-type)

In case you don't have a folder ISO in EasyBoot\disk1 create one now
Continue with extracting ISO-file from you download zip-file to folder EasyBoot\disk1\iso
Rename extracted iso to pmagic.iso
Extract folder Pmagic from inside of  pmagic.iso to EasyBoot\disk1 (we need folder Pmagic on the root of easyboot = EasyBoot\disk1)

You can use the same approach as earlier described
Use this text in menu.lst:

timeout 0

find --set-root /iso/pmagic.iso
map /iso/pmagic.iso (hd32)
map --hook
root (hd32)
chainloader (hd32)

Use same command as earlier described but different name to floppy image: run pmagic.img (if you decide to use compressed floppy image you can use command: memdisk pmagic.img.gz)

Note: Reason that I do like or use compressed floppy images is that it's a better choice when running EasyBoot from USB device.

Option 2 (seems to work):
Extract from downloaded pmagic.iso folder BOOT and folder PMAGIC to EasyBoot\disk1

Save boot file (use UltraISO or similar) from downloaded pmagic.iso to folder ezboot. Save boot file as pmagic.bif. Use this command:  bootinfotable;run pmagic.bif

Note: I have tested this in reality (runned from CD-unit) and both methods works.
Note: Testing in Virtual PC might fail. I tested with a CD (CD-RW-disk).

Attention! When creating ISO check Allow lower case.

Notes about Gparted

I downloaded gparted-live-0.4.1-2.iso.
Note: You cannot use grub (kick-starter-image) to start this ISO.
Instead open gparted-live-0.4.1-2.iso and extract folder .disk,  isolinux, live and the two files copying and gparted-live-version to EasyBoot\disk1
Open gparted-live-0.4.1-2.iso with UltraISO and save boot file with name gparted.bif to folder ezboot.
Use command:  bootinfotable;run gparted.bif
Tested and works from CD (not working when using Virtual PC as tester).
-----------------------------
Haven't been able to locate any download of Part Logic (for me unfamiliar software)

balder

Posted by ScottProdigy on Feb. 26 2009,14:03
Sorry, didn't see your post above before I posted this. That's exactly what I figured out, and you're guide is much more thorough. Thanks for the help!

Okay, the only fix for using GParted was to copy all of the disc contents to the "disk1" Easyboot folder, and then create a .bif boot file from the disc, using UltraISO, and "bootinfotable;run gparted.bif" as my command. Turned out okay, but probably not the best solution for those needing to use multiple "isolinux" directories. Fortunately for me, I am able to use the "memdisk" solution above for Memtest86 and other programs.

Do you think the larger .iso file is the reason that GParted via memdisk/iso wouldn't work? It took awhile to load in VM, but crashed with a processor failure. I decided to burn a CD and the program never got past the GRUB loader.



Posted by ScottProdigy on Feb. 26 2009,14:05
Interesting, I was having an issue with Parted Magic 3.7 using the memdisk method, but I only tested it in VM and not on an actual PC. I could get all the way to the option screen and none of the options, such as "load from CD" "load in RAM" "fail safe" etc. would work.
Posted by bugme on Apr. 12 2010,05:14

(balder @ Jan. 22 2009,19:20)
QUOTE
@jycnet

Well, as nobody else seems to help you I will give it a try. As it is a pain :(  to get it working using this approach “DOS floppy and use loadlin.exe of dos to load initrd.cgz”, I suggest you use grub loader with a “kickstarter-Image” :cool:  
Do as following to see if it works:

1. Create a new folder with name iso  in EasyBoot\disk1
2. Download full ISO (cd080802.zip ) of “Offline NT Password & Registry Editor” from < here >
3. Extract downloaded ISO to EasyBoot\disk1\iso and rename ISO to:  Password.iso  
4. Download  compressed floppy image (Password.img.gz) with grub from < here >
5. Put Password.img.gz in folder ezboot as usual. Use it as it is, do not extract image!
6. In EasyBoot menu set command:  memdisk Password.img.gz
7. Attention! When creating ISO check “Allow lower case”

Test and see if you can manage it to work :)

balder

link die, re-upload plz, thankx
Posted by balder on Apr. 12 2010,05:43
@bugme

I suggest that you instead use my script easyboot-iso.script that take care of this operation.
Note: You do not need to check "Run ISO from RAM" to make this ISO run. And you do not need to check "Allow lower case" when creating ISO in EasyBoot.

You have the whole set of script below: “Download complete set of scripts including help file HERE:”

Download for Offline NT Password & Registry Editor is < HERE >

balder



Posted by madar on Apr. 12 2010,07:19
Dear friends
By several hours working on using "Offline NT Password & Registry Editor"
I should say:

1.There are several ways to run this program from CD/DVD (by BCDW,AeroStudio,
grub4dos and...that if you need i will tell how to do each of them.

2.It is seen that "Offline NT Password & Registry Editor" works good when is
burned and is the only program in CD.it will not work if you add another program
to CD.For using that along other programs i did as below (of course i did method
below in BCDW):

A_ Download empty floppy (bd080526.bin) from bartpe ,open it by winimage and save
that in .IMA format(for example Pass.ima).

B_ changed Pass.ima size from 1.44M to 5.76M by winimage

C_ Copy contents of CD version of "Offline NT Password & Registry Editor"
 to newly changed Pass.ima .

D_ for using by bcdw 1.5 ,Place  this Pass.ima in root of CD and used command
below in BOOTCAT.INI to run it:
 

 \pass.IMA                        ;NTPasss

That's all

Posted by balder on Apr. 12 2010,09:08
@madar

madar doesn’t it work launching "Offline NT Password & Registry Editor" using ISO-file?
I mean method I recently described (tested in reality from USB device) – is there something wrong or what ???

No offence to you madar, but please, note that I used Easyboot to launch the whole package :;):  

balder



Posted by madar on Apr. 12 2010,09:35
Hi Dear balder
Happy to talk with you again

I had some jobs next 30 days ,so i was not able to see all topics on this
site.I am sorry to say that my works (may be my problems) are not finished
yet,and so i did not had time to see and read your posts in this topic.

so i am very sorry for interruption of your discusion.
I just saw the name of topic,and because i had many exprements by
this software (NTpas),i tryed to be some help.