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norman 
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Posted on: Aug. 08 2011,07:27 |
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In the I386 directory of UBCD4Win, several files with the same name occur in different subdirectories. When I run 'Make ISO', I am asked whether to keep the file(s) or replace it (them); either way, the CD that is subsequently burned (even when UBCD4Win is the only bootable program in the ISO) does boot from UBCD4Win, but stalls after loading Windows.
UBCD4Win is a very popular utility and many people use it with EasyBoot. What am I doing wrong? (I used UltraISO to extract the original UBCD4Win iso file which, incidentally, works just fine as a standalone bootable CD.)
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balder
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Posted on: Aug. 08 2011,07:43 |
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@norman
As it seems you are a new member I say welcome @norman 
Quote: "What am I doing wrong?"
Well I'm a little bit confused here 
Do you already have a folder I386 with other files and folders (setup folder to WinXP or whatever) in folder disk1 (folder disk1 is the "root" for EasyBoot if you wonder) and trying to replace similar files and folders?
Hmmm I'm confused 
Quote: "(I Â used UltraISO to extract the original UBCD4Win iso file which, incidentally, works just fine as a standalone bootable CD.)"
And now you goal is to create a new ISO with files you extracted from ISO
Why this detour
Or do I totally miss the picture
balder
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norman
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Posted on: Aug. 08 2011,09:10 |
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1. Now I know the answer to my question "What am I doing wrong?": Everything! But with such a distinguished guide, I'm sure I'll figure it out, eventually.
2. Some time ago I downloaded (XP-SP3 slipstream) UBCD4Win according to instructions on their website and burned a CD from the iso file; the CD works just fine.
3. In keeping with many others, I now want to combine that and other bootable CDs into a multi-boot DVD.
4. I launched UltraISO, loaded the UBCD4Win iso file and extracted it into EasyBoot\disk1.
5. During the extraction process, I got the message: 'keep or replace' for I386\WINSXS\MANIFESTS\CAT and again for I386\WINSXS\MANIFESTS\ST.
6. I choose what I choose and the extraction completes.
7. I also save the boot file to disk1\ezboot.
8. I then launch EasyBoot, make the appropriate choices in the 'Menu' tab and 'Save As' an .ezb file.
9. I then 'Make ISO'.
10. I use Active ISO Burner to burn a test CD.
11. The burning and verification completes uneventfully and I boot my system from the CD.
12. The EasyBoot screen opens, I choose UBCD4Win, it launches, Windows begins to load and, near the end, stops: no more progress, juat a responsive mouse cursor.
13. I'm sorry I was so obscure last time, but I learn fast.
14. Thank you for your offer to help.
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balder
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Posted on: Aug. 08 2011,10:19 |
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@norman
Quote: "Everything!"
He, he same as I did in the beginning of using EasyBoot 
Quote: "I now want to combine that and other bootable CDs into a multi-boot DVD"
Okay, so you have already folder I386 in easyboot\disk1 and obviously you can only have one folder I386!
This can be solved in several different ways.
One solution is to run ISO-file as it is (not extracting anything to folder disk1)
In fact you can run any WinPE from RAM that is built from source of NT5 or NT6 (NT5=WinXP etcetera NT6=Vista/Win7/Server-2008).
Note: NT6-systems doesn't even need the RAM-approach!
But you also mentioned (if I understand right) that you build UBCD4Win using WinXP_sp3 as source - correct?
If this is the case, you can test renaming folder I386 to any uppercase 4-letters name (typically UBCD or 4WIN or whatever 4-letters name you prefer).
Then use menu command in EasyBoot:  bcdw /UBCD/setupldr.bin  (where"UBCD" is the name you prefer).
Another way is to hex edit (change name to folder I386 and hex edit some files to make it work.
This can be done using my script "easyboot-live.script"
Script change name and automatically make necessary hex edit to source files with a breeze 
In case you have setup folder in your build (setup folder I386 for WinXP_sp3 in your build) then you can also change name to this folder using script "easyboot-AIO.script".
I have a link to my "old" script collection HERE
Note: script collection for download that you can localize below in every post I write in this forum, doesn't have "easyboot-live.script" as it is not that common to launch WinPE-systems this "old" way.
Instead we tend to launch ISO-file as the are from RAM.
Run ISO from RAM also make it extremely easy to launch EasyBoot menu from USB device and in this way launch ISO-files as the are (not extracting any files or folders any where).
It would be helpful if you could give some more details what you have in your "multiboot-project"
Quote: "I use Active ISO Burner to burn a test CD"
How about using "Virtual PC" or similar?
In fact you have in script "easyboot-live.script" a button "run ISO from qemu" that can test you built ISO before you burn it to any CD/DVD 
balder
Edited by balder on Aug. 14 2011,14:51
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norman
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Posted on: Aug. 09 2011,04:52 |
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Dear Balder,
I see where this is going to take some time. I hope you have the patience for me.
I have begun going over your reply, trying to figure out what I am supposed to do. But I noticed that you write "One solution is to run ISO-file as it is...". Great! That would do me just fine, for now—if I knew how.
Let's say I have 4 ISO-files: A.iso, B.iso, C.iso, D.iso, each with its bootable CD. How do I setup EasyBoot so that its 4 menus contain these 4 entries and that when I choose one of them, the corresponding X.iso program executes? Please be as specific as you can.
There is a program called Xboot that runs iso-files in this manner, but not all iso-files are supported.
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balder
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Posted on: Aug. 09 2011,05:57 |
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@norman
Quote: "I hope you have the patience for me"
Sure
Quote: "That would do me just fine, for now—if I knew how"
Solution is to use my script collection - look below and download zip-file
Scripts are free for private use - completely royal-free  to non-commercial use 
Extract zip-file "balder" to the root (C:\) and read "READ_ME.html" inside folder balder.
Then open folder "WinBuilder_complete" and double-click to WinBuilder.exe
If you have carefully read the "READ_ME.html-document" you now can activate script; "easyboot-iso.script" by simply click once on it in the left part of WinBuilder window (there are several more scripts to chose from).
Now when you have "easyboot-iso.script" up and ready you push on "help-button".
At this point I find it hard to belive that you don't understand what to do
Test and reply your results.
Quote: "Let's say I have 4 ISO-files: A.iso, B.iso, C.iso, D.iso, each with its bootable CD. Â How do I setup EasyBoot so that its 4 menus contain these 4 entries and that when I choose one of them, the corresponding X.iso"
Note: not all ISO-files can be launched directly - but surprisingly many of them.
As mentioned in post nr, 4 And I quote: "In fact you can run any WinPE from RAM that is built from source of NT5 or NT6 (NT5=WinXP etcetera NT6=Vista/Win7/Server-2008)."
This means all kinds of Windows-PE-ISO-files can be launched this way - including UBCDWIN
Quote: "There is a program called Xboot that runs iso-files in this manner, but not all iso-files are supported"
Yes I'm acquainted with this kind of program - but I'm not satisfied - and further more, it doesn't at all support Easyboot in the right way - which my scripts to 100% do
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Read below what I did as test:
Did some test using an "old" Retogobuild from the "good old times" created with WinXP_sp2 as source (basically the same as UBCDWIN).
The build is in the neighbourhood of 300 MB in size.
I used my script "easyboot-iso.script to integrate ISO into EasyBoot.
Note: I checked "Run ISO from RAM" as this WinPE is build from NT5-source (WinXP or similar).
I used the name REATOGO in script text-box as name to ISO-file.
I also used recommended menu command given by script in EasyBoot menu: Â memdisk reatogo.img.gz
To compare I used my script "easyboot-live.script" and changed name in text-box in script to REAT
I used recommended menu command given by script in EasyBoot menu: Â run reat.bin
I created ISO and finally burned ISO to an CD-RW and tested.
Test came out this way:
1. The winner is the "new method", run ISO from RAM, as it was up and running Reatogo in less than 90 seconds
And as the system run from RAM it was super fast in reaction - no delay - faster than a "real" Window system.
2. The loser is the "old fashion method" with folders and files as it was up and running after 3 minutes and 20 seconds
That is what I call a genuine looser
  Sensmoral: Use my script easyboot-iso.script to integrate and run all different ISO,s typically;  UBCDWIN or ERD or BartPE or MsDart60/65 ghost14 rescue ISO, active-boot-cd (ISO) etcetera
balder
Edited by balder on Aug. 09 2011,09:50
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norman
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Posted on: Aug. 14 2011,08:29 |
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Dear Balder,
Last Wednesday I posted a reply, but when I came to check today, I couldn't find it. I don't know what went wrong, but I'll try again.
I downloaded your script collection and read the READ_ME file. (Actually, I was already familiar with your collection and had read the file in question before my first post.)
1. When I run EasyBoot-ISO WITH 'Run ISO from RAM', use the information-window prompt 'memdisk UBWIN.img.gz' in EasyBoot, and burn a CD, the CD boots, UBCD4WIN executes, Windows loads, the 'Start Shell' window appears, and then nothing more happens, ever.
2. When I run EasyBoot-ISO WITHOUT 'Run ISO from RAM', use the information-window prompt 'memdisk UBWIN.img.gz' in EasyBoot, and burn a DVD, the DVD boots, UBCD4WIN executes, Windows loads, and a BSOD appears.
I am stuck, completely, and desperately await your advice.
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balder
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Posted on: Aug. 14 2011,10:34 |
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norman
Quote: "I am stuck, completely, and desperately await your advice."
Help is on it's way
Quote: "1. When I run EasyBoot-ISO WITH 'Run ISO from RAM', use the information-window prompt 'memdisk UBWIN.img.gz' in EasyBoot, and burn a CD, the CD boots, UBCD4WIN executes, Windows loads, the 'Start Shell' window appears, and then nothing more happens, ever."
How much RAM do you have in computer?
You need at least twice amount RAM as your original UBCD4WIN-ISO-file is in size, otherwise computer freeze as not enough RAM is available to full-fill the process
If your build is, let's say 680 MB, you need at least 1,536 (1,5GB) GB RAM and if you have a graphic card that consumes RAM (integrated RAM dedicated to graphic-card) then you need at least 2,024GB (2GB) RAM
Please take notice to that these kinds of builds are large in size and consumes pretty much RAM
You can download "MobaLive" and test your ISO-file (no need burn to CD/DVD before tested ISO is working correctly)
Download HERE
Note: Push NO when MobaLive is asking "create hard disk image". You don't need to create such one to test ISO-file.
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It would be of great interest if you could explain what kind of build you are creating.
I understand that UBCDWIN is involved but what more NT5-system are we dealing with?
Is it setup of WinXP or similar?
regards balder
Edited by balder on Aug. 14 2011,14:59
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norman
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Posted on: Aug. 16 2011,05:18 |
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Dear Balder,
  Thank you! The problem with UBCD4WIN has been solved. (It wasn't a shortage of RAM—I have 4GB.) It turns out that the UBCD4WIN.iso file I was using is corrupt. I suspected something like that and reran the LiveCD had I burned from it, but that worked fine. Apparently, the corruption occurred after the burning, and I never thought to burn it again. But with the QEMU program you suggested, I tried it directly, and found the problem. I used an old backup of UBCD4WIN.iso and everything was fine.
  I now have 3 bootable programs on my LiveCD, but the fourth is giving me trouble. I want to add Partition Wizard, which is a free replacement (only 37.5MB) for the no-longer-supported Partition Magic, but when I run your EasyBoot-ISO script (with or without the RAM option), Partition Wizard boots into a DOS screen with the prompt: grub>.
  I tried extracting the Partition Wizard iso file (using UltraISO) directly into EasyBoot\disk1 but  when I then boot it from the EasyBoot screen, I receive a checksum error for its bif file.
  Do you have any ideas or should I just quit while I'm ahead?
 Thank you again.
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balder
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Posted on: Aug. 16 2011,07:27 |
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@norman
Quote: "I now have 3 bootable programs on my LiveCD, but the fourth is giving me trouble. I want to add Partition Wizard"
Quote: "3 bootable programs on my LiveCD"
Great
Anyway... Hopefully it is this "Partition Wizard" we are dealing with  HERE
Full Download HERE
Sometimes these ISOLINUX-distro's is a pain in the *** 
But can mostly be solved - and I'm pretty sure solution below is to your fully satisfaction (I hope )
Do it this way:
1. Extract folder "BOOT" from ISO-file to folder disk1 in EasyBoot
2. Use my script "easyboot-iso.script" to integrate Partition-Wizard.iso-file into easyboot (do not have spaces in ISO-name). And you don't need to check "Run ISO from RAM".
3. Use menu command given by script. You don't need to check "Joliet" to make it work.
4. Use "MobaLive" (read Post Number: 8) to test ISO created by EasyBoot.
And yes I know - this takes up some space (38MB+ISO-file) but we cannot, in this case, fully take advantages of the "frugal solution" to this ISO-build.
We need to have files on both the "root" (folder disk1 in EasyBoot) as in the ISO-file itself.
This is a little weird but needed
Please also read about changes to EasyBoot-version-6
Read HERE
And read HERE
I you have updated EasyBoot to version-6 you don't need to do step 2 in tutorial above.
You can simply copy "wizard.ISO-file" to folder ezboot and use menu command in EasyBoot:
run wizard.ISO (or what ever name you use to ISO-file.
Basically the solution given by my script "easyboot-iso.script" is built-in to EasyBoot from EasyBoot version-6.
But not the "RAM"-approache needed to WinPE built using NT5-system as source (your UBCDWIN is such example, it still needs the "RAM"-approach to work correctly)
Note: You must download my updated scripts (replace old folder "balder" with updated folder "balder") if you update Easyboot to version-6
regards balder
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